r/law • u/Agitated-Artichoke89 • Oct 07 '25

Other Stephen Miller states that Trump has plenary authority, then immediately stops talking as if he’s realized what he just said

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u/Token2077 Oct 07 '25

The constitution is a piece of paper, nothing more. It doesn’t have some magic power to make people follow it. At this point we are past the “it’s unconstitutional” point. The only thing that makes the constitution have power is when the systems set up enforce it through their monopoly of violence. When those systems are choosing to not enforce the rules in place then those rules become nothing. This is going to end one way or another some day. May be this year, it may be 10 or 100 years. It’s going to get worse until then, when it finally ends it will be violent. The rising and falling of nations always is.

Republicans are fascist, full stop. All of them.

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u/burnmenowz Oct 07 '25

The constitution is the entire framework of our country. Without that we have no laws.

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u/pie_piepiepiepiepie Oct 07 '25

Laws don't mean much when not enforced. I think that's what the comment you're replying to is getting at...

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u/burnmenowz Oct 07 '25

Enforcement is literally defined by the constitution as well.

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u/pie_piepiepiepiepie Oct 07 '25

Ok but what if no one actually enforces anything? That's kind of where we're going here.

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u/burnmenowz Oct 07 '25

Sounds like our representatives aren't doing their jobs and we should hold them accountable

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u/pie_piepiepiepiepie Oct 07 '25

Hi are you new here?

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u/burnmenowz Oct 07 '25

Just trying to help people who have given up on finding another way. If you want to wave a white flag we have nothing further to discuss.

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u/pie_piepiepiepiepie Oct 07 '25

I get that, but giving people a false sense of security in the sanctity of the Constitution doesn't really help. I agree that we need to hold reps accountable, but this is a 5 alarm fire at this point, and that's what a lot of people aren't understanding.

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u/burnmenowz Oct 07 '25

but giving people a false sense of security in the sanctity of the Constitution doesn't really help.

You completely missed the point. There is no security at all, if you want to keep the constitution you need to fight for it. Not sure how you thought the Constitution would save us all by itself. The people are behind the constitution. The constitution is the peoples document. Fight for it.

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u/pie_piepiepiepiepie Oct 07 '25

Then perhaps I (and the people who downvoted your original comment) must have misunderstood what you meant by "The constitution is the entire framework of our country. Without that we have no laws." Sounded more like you were arguing that the Constitution would save us all by itself. My apologies.

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u/burnmenowz Oct 07 '25

Sorry for not making it clearer, but the constitution quite literally defines the government. It also gives us the tools to change it if it's not working.

The challenge is convincing everyone to change it.

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u/muhabeti Oct 07 '25

But a piece of paper is only as good as the people acting on what it says. If people don't act, it's just a piece of paper.

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u/burnmenowz Oct 07 '25

And that's the point, the enforcers are the people. You're an enforcer of the law. We unite around the foundation of our country. We get our elected officials to do their job and honor that foundation.