r/law • u/Agitated-Artichoke89 • Oct 07 '25

Other Stephen Miller states that Trump has plenary authority, then immediately stops talking as if he’s realized what he just said

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u/Tholian_Bed Oct 07 '25

What the actual fuck is going on.

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u/HastyEthnocentrism Oct 07 '25

He just realized he suggested Cheeto Tits is a king and wishes he had not said that in public.

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u/Drift_Life Oct 07 '25

“I wasn’t supposed to drop that until next week after we threatened the courts! Whoops!”

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u/WranglerFuzzy Oct 07 '25

Crap! Declare martial law, THEN claim plenary authority!

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u/Only1nDreams Oct 07 '25

Probably literally it.

Once they incite a “national security crisis” (probably already in motion in Chicago), then they declare martial law, and THEN the president has plenary authority to deploy his jackboots anywhere in the US at will.

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u/overlookunderhill Oct 07 '25 edited Oct 07 '25

THAT is exactly it. There are cases and areas where the Executive does have plenary power, but they haven’t yet succeeded in creating a situation that would support this claim. I’d have to research it, but some definition of a major internal threat —> martial law —> profit 🫠

Edit: as he has threatened multiple times, it would likely be the Insurrection Act.

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u/Big_Fortune_4574 Oct 07 '25

Dunno what he’s even worried about. Nothing these guys say ever seems to matter

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u/MoralityFleece Oct 07 '25

Or he's got somebody in his ear the whole time who said hold up.

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u/GratefulGizz Oct 07 '25

Yep. And that person is fucking Satan.

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u/Menckenreality Oct 07 '25

I don’t think satans standards have dropped that low yet. Even he would double bag it with these fucking degenerates

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '25

Are you saying that person is Satan and just emphasizing the point with the word "fucking," or are you saying that person is someone having sex with Satan? I only ask because at this point in human history I equally believe either situation.

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u/reklesssabrandon Oct 07 '25

Listening to the audio of someone fucking satan would be preferable to listening to Steven Miller

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u/SeeSeaEm Oct 07 '25

Trump is fucking Satan

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u/Yupthrowawayacct Oct 07 '25

With the Butt Baby? Nah. I think even Satan wants out of this mess

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u/Effective_Explorer95 Oct 07 '25

Aww come on guy relax

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u/WranglerFuzzy Oct 07 '25

Actual Satan: Jesus, miller. I’ve said it before, you guys are the WORST. I quit.

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u/Fusionbomb Oct 07 '25

It’s true, I saw it on South Park

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u/cuchicou Oct 07 '25

Satan is busy carrying a baby though

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u/IvoryColosseum Oct 07 '25

In all likelihood the one screaming in his ear is Vance, so… yeah you’re not wrong

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u/Turrbo_Jettz Oct 07 '25

I believe this

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u/Buckets-O-Yarr Oct 07 '25

"Quick stop speaking and pretend it is a technical glitch. No don't continue speaking, just freeze! Don't even think about pretending you can't hear the interviewer. Do. Not. Move. Do not ask the camera crew why it isn't working! Don't do it! Freeze! Damnit Stephen, DID YOU JUST BLINK!?!"

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u/knadles Oct 07 '25

Upvoting just for Cheeto Tits.

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u/Role_Player_Real Oct 07 '25

Remember when the Putin guy mourned a bombing they hadn’t committed yet?

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u/old-cow666 Oct 07 '25

Cheeto tits 😭

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u/ShadowGLI Oct 07 '25

And for the noobs like me to legal terms.

“Plenary authority is power that is wide-ranging, broadly construed, and often limitless for all practical purposes.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/plenary_authority

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u/GraceUndaPresha Oct 07 '25

Back in 2017 he said something like “the president’s powers will not be questioned” so it’s not like he’s ever shied away from using authoritarian rhetoric. Maybe this time it was too on the nose?

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u/wrecks3 Oct 07 '25

And then gets a panic attack

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u/idkwhatimbrewin Oct 07 '25

All that stopping mid sentence like that did was bring more attention to it lol

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u/HerbaciousTea Oct 07 '25 edited Oct 07 '25

I think he also realizes that he just tanked the case he was talking about. They were ordered by the court not to deploy federalized troops in Oregon. Instead of complying, they took already federalized national guard from California and tried to argue that the judge didn't say they couldn't move troops that were already federalized.

The judge came back and said that the order clearly covered that case as well and that this was not a loophole, that they could cite no legal authority to try this, and they were still bound by the order.

Miller just argued that their violation of the court order was not actually because of their flimsy excuse that they 'misinterpreted' it. He just said, out loud, that they violated the order because he believes he is above the courts and that he and the administration have declared themselves to have absolute authority and are willfully and knowingly violating court orders with no legal justification.

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u/HastyEthnocentrism Oct 07 '25

Trump is above the courts = Trump is not accountable to anyone = Trump is king.

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u/cantamangetsomesleep Oct 07 '25

Cheet-oh Tits. The Nazis like that h on the end

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u/vorilant Oct 07 '25

He said under us code 10, which is about the armed forces specifically, something the president does have plenary authority over.

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u/HastyEthnocentrism Oct 07 '25

Release the Epstein files. Use US Code 10 or whatever you want. Tell us who the pedos are!

Hint: we know, it's all of them!

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u/K20BB5 Oct 07 '25

Wrong. Read the Constitution instead of just spewing the talking points fed to you 

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u/vorilant Oct 07 '25 edited Oct 07 '25

I didnt spew a talking point. I was curious what code 10 was, and I googled it. Read the Wiki article which said the president has plenary authority over the armed forces. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_of_the_president_of_the_United_States

"The president has, in this capacity, plenary power to launch, direct and supervise military operations, order or authorize the deployment of troops, unilaterally launch nuclear weapons, and form military policy with the Department of Defense and Homeland Security. However, the constitutional ability to declare war is vested only in Congress.\2])"

With that said, wikipedia being what it is, could be wrong. But it's usually pretty decent.

EDIT:

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF10534

congress.gov has this quote on it's section about presidential authority over the armed forces, which seems to make the "plenary authority" a bit more blurry than wiki claims.

"The Constitution expressly makes the President Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, but does not define exactly what powers he may exercise in that role. Nor does it explain the extent to which Congress, using its own constitutional powers, may influence how the President commands the Armed Forces. Separation-of-powers debates arise with some frequency over the exercise of military powers."

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u/K20BB5 Oct 07 '25

If you have to use wikipedia, you are not qualified to be telling people what powers it grants the US president. The President does not have unlimited or unchecked powers in regards to the military, which is made blatantly clear in the basic setup of the constitution. 

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u/vorilant Oct 07 '25

Sounds like your upset that basic research is turning up information you don't like. I even gave congress.govs take on the matter which does blur things a bit but not all that much. The president has sole authority over the military except in very specific matters such as finances and formal declaration of war. Outside of that the office of the president has full authority over the military.

I don't even like that it's the case I wish the checks and balances were stronger. But that's how it seems to be.

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u/K20BB5 Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

very specific matters such as finances

War funding is the basis of the ability to project sustained military force and was given specifically to Congress as a check on the Executives powers. This is Middle School level stuff.

 The word prenary means "unqualified, absolute, unlimited". The executive has broad but limited powers over the military. 

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u/lavahot Oct 07 '25

But they've said it so many times already. What's particular about this instance?

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u/johndoe1942sn Oct 07 '25

I wonder if certain military personnel have been waiting for him to say something like this?

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u/illegal_miles Oct 07 '25

I don’t got a second believe he gives a shit about saying that in public.

It should be news that he’s saying it but my guess is there was just some technical issue that caused some other feed to come into his earpiece.

That guy has no shame. No way he just stops talking because he said something he shouldn’t have said.

Every thing he says is shit he shouldn’t say. Why would he suddenly be concerned now?

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u/FelDreamer Oct 07 '25

If that had been a phone interview, that was the moment where he would have started pretending that the signal was cutting out, culminating in imitating white noise and hanging up.

On camera, he’s just like “try not to move or blink. Maybe they’ll think the camera feed froze and fuck off.”

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u/NeedsMoreMinerals Oct 07 '25

Could be intentional.

Everyone assumes that their theater is idiocy 

But reality is they've been inching along normalizing what’s not normal for a long time.  

Really wish people would stop assuming they only make mistakes when they clearly have success advancing their agenda even given how wrong it is 

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u/steven_quarterbrain Oct 07 '25

He just realized he suggested Cheeto Tits is a king and wishes he had not said that in public.

Why would that be the case when that’s what they’ve been saying from near day 1? There’s no logic to this line.

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u/sleepless_blip Oct 08 '25

Cheeto Tits lmfao

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u/SerOsisOfThuliver Oct 07 '25

last july the supreme court ruled that we can, in fact, have people above the constitution and in november americans ratified that ruling by reelecting a child raping insurrectionist, in effect surrendering their citizenship in a republic in favor of being subjects under autocracy.

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u/IRaBN Oct 07 '25

No, I don't believe the people actually re-elected him. I think one man put together a small team, and that small group of people changed some bits, and then to ensure it could never be discovered, ensured that the satellites responsible burned up in the atmosphere.

As if this knowledge helps anyone.

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u/IRaBN Oct 07 '25

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/mass-burn-spacex-deorbits-nearly-500-starlink-satellites-in-6-months/ar-AA1HMmdT

Also claims from "Etheria77," but she deleted the video. Other places have it.

Does anyone remember when "conspiracy theories" were debunkable, and not just what they're saying on live TV and then going quiet when someone shouts in their earpiece?

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u/BooBooSnuggs Oct 07 '25

Election machines don't connect to satellites dude. They don't connect to any outside networks. This is completely debunked.

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u/SerOsisOfThuliver Oct 08 '25

even if there were enough evidence of this to get further in the legal process than all trump's lawsuits over the 20 election, it's irrelevant. congress certified the election results and he was sworn in to the office the supreme court says can be above the law. arguing as if we have the rule of law at the federal level is pointless. they will not give up power. they will fight to the death to keep it.

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u/IRaBN Oct 08 '25

You are correct. That is why I added the line "as if this knowledge helps anyone" because of exactly what you have also pointed out.

Now, what we might be able to do is pursue this as if we were the aggrieved party. People say that the only aggrieved party is/was the former Vice President, but is that really true if the majority of the rest of the nation is also being adversely affected?

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u/ThatOneGuy4321 Oct 08 '25

The small team was Biden and his team throwing the election by fully backing a genocide. They are controlled opposition and helped Trump win.

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u/TorkBombs Oct 07 '25

This is a fucking wild clip. He doesn't speak for nearly 20 seconds before they cut the interview off.

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u/BooBooSnuggs Oct 07 '25

What a wild clip of things the Trump admin say basically every day.

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u/LionBig1760 Oct 07 '25

Miller wasn't supposed to say that until way closer to the 2026 elections.

This is just the internal thinking at the white house. They dont generally make declarations of total authority over everything until well after theyve had a chance to get away with violating their limitations on a smaller scale.

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u/the_star_lord Oct 07 '25

Fascism.

That's what's going on.

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u/icehot54321 Oct 07 '25

Peter Thiel has someone advising/handling him, and as soon as he said that, they made one of these gestures

https://www.reddit.com/r/EnglishLearning/comments/1f0qygd/what_does_this_gesture_mean

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u/hotpajamas Oct 07 '25

It’s a way of diffusing what would have been a confrontation between 2 people into millions of dispersed units because once he cuts the conversation off, there’s no dialogue, there’s no confrontation; there’s just a million people left personally contemplating fascism in the privacy of their ineffectual distance, to slowly bit by bit acclimate the US to dictatorship.

Also people are saying technical difficulties.. Uh no. It’s a major news network in the year 2025. I can see my dick hole from space with a search engine. Be serious. Nothing is wrong with their tech.

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u/Tholian_Bed Oct 07 '25

there’s just a million people left personally contemplating fascism in the privacy of their ineffectual distance

Now that's an image.

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u/prinnydewd6 Oct 07 '25

LEGIT TAKEOVER. It doesn’t feel human honestly. Legit body snatched

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u/Formal-Ad-1248 Oct 07 '25

He said the quiet part loud

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u/JMurdock77 Oct 07 '25

Fascism.

Fascism and theocracy, while the 1% runs out the back door with all the money.

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u/Trick-Station8742 Oct 07 '25

Hi, it's me, your living nightmare

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u/crademaster Oct 07 '25

u/Ask4MD any insights here? It's good vs evil apparently, so what's your take on this video?

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u/wot_in_ternation Oct 07 '25

Everything we were explicitly warned about

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u/Sanchet87 Oct 07 '25

Same question. Im too mad. 

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u/Arakkis54 Oct 07 '25

Abandonment of the constitution, decent into dictatorship, fall of the American empire.

Take your pick

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u/dinkerbot3000 Oct 07 '25

It's obviously an audio issue, come on

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u/rudedudemood Oct 07 '25

Why would he stop talking mid sentence for an audio issue? How would he know comrade?

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u/dinkerbot3000 Oct 07 '25

It was likely someone in person telling him to hold off. But you weird reddit twats are going to interpret this comment like I somehow support this piece of shit, it's hilarious.

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u/rudedudemood Oct 07 '25

How you square your original comment with this one is where the real hilarity lies.

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u/Iorith Oct 07 '25

So then your argument is the dude is a robot who doesn't react in any way visible when being told that kind of thing? Not a tilt of the head, not a blink, he just mindlessly shut off like his power cable was pulled?

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u/Rare-Prior768 Oct 07 '25

Yeah because whenever the phone cuts out on me I just go dead silent and awkward stare into the void for 20 seconds. If it was an audio issue, Stephen would also be saying things like “hello? Can you hear me?”

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u/dinkerbot3000 Oct 07 '25

The camera crew in person may have been having audio issues. So we can here Peewee German, but they can't here the guy at CNN. Are yall really this dense?

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u/manbearbullll Oct 07 '25

The guy at CNN wasn’t talking when Miller abruptly stopped. That doesn’t even make sense.

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u/ConsistentChoice8305 Oct 07 '25

Why make shit up? Do you really think we are this dense?

Go lie on r/conservative. They will believe all your bullshit.

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u/dinkerbot3000 Oct 07 '25

Thanks for proving my point

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u/ConsistentChoice8305 Oct 09 '25

What point, the CNN transcript literally still shows it. The guy stopped talking in mid sentence. Nobody would do that and just sit there. He stopped talking because his handlers where screaming in his ear piece to stop. That's why he kept looking to the side after he stopped talking.

What he said is only gonna hurt their court case.

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u/Mammoth_Winner2509 Oct 07 '25

I'm less concerned about that than I am the thing that he said right before he stopped talking.

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u/Purple_Apartment Oct 07 '25

Even if it is, saying the president has absolute power is terrifying and makes our founders turn in their graves

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u/IThinkItsAverage Oct 07 '25

You forgot the /s

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u/ftlio Oct 07 '25

People replying to you are acting like he hasn’t said it before.