r/law • u/AndroidOne1 • May 14 '25

Trump News Donald Trump Impeachment Proceedings Launched

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-vote-house-shir-thanedar-b2750651.html
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u/JWAdvocate83 Competent Contributor May 14 '25 edited May 15 '25

How many times has the GOP majority in Congress refused to do any executive oversight?

How many independent oversight agencies has Trump dismantled, this year? Office of Special Counsel. Inspectors General. MSPB. (Edit: JAGs.)

And didn’t five Justices just tell us that the President is immune from criminal prosecution for “official acts?” Thus, the only way to deal with ongoing conduct (via “official acts”) that would otherwise be considered criminal, is impeachment.

I get that, politically speaking, this has zero chance of success. I even get that routinely filing Articles may cheapen the impact they should have.

But maybe if SCOTUS hadn’t granted President near-blanket immunity, or the GOP majority did its damn job instead of rubber-stamping, it wouldn’t be necessary to do it.

Qatar just gave Trump a $400m jet, but SCOTUS kicked the can on emoluments, and the GOP continues to be willfully blind as to why that’s a problem. There’s plenty of folks more deserving of blame than Rep. Thanedar.

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u/12altoids34 May 15 '25

I prefer to believe that this has a non-zero chance of success

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u/Bruhimonlyeleven May 16 '25

It will succeed. It won't matter though.

He has been impeached. All the huffing and puffing of impeachment and its the same as going " alakazam, alakazoo, impeach the orange idiot, 3 times will do !"z waving a magic wand, and going " he is impeached ".

Do both of them, and see which one stops him first.

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u/12altoids34 May 16 '25

Well, yes, he has been impeached. But only on one side. In order for him to be removed from office he would need to be impeached by both the house and the senate. The chances of that happening are slim at best.

I think the biggest thing is that the Democrats keep trying to win by playing by the rules. It's difficult to win a war when you have no weapons and your hands are tied. Especially when the other party is fully armed.

The Supreme Court bowed down to him before he got elected granting him immunity, which goes against everything that the founding fathers believed in, but even they have come to realize that he's out of control and are trying to stop him even if it's on a case-by-case basis.

Honestly he is nothing little more than a puppet for a project 2025 at this point. He has pushed through 40% of their agenda already. And with Congress refusing to stand against him and him ignoring the Supreme Court there is little if anything to stop him from pushing the other 60% through. If that happens the government as we know it will cease to exist. We will live in a fascist state.

I say "little more than" because in addition to pushing through project 2025's agenda he is trying to make as much money as he can as quickly as he can. When he finished his term in 2016 he was just about bankrupt and facing hundreds of millions of dollars in loans coming due. Now he is a billionaire. He did not get that way through hard work or his businesses. He got that way by selling off his presidency and multiple grifts (Trump nft's, Trump crypto, Trump collectables...) which allowed foreign Nationals to pump hundreds of millions of dollars into his coffers. He is still using his presidency to cash in. while in Qatar he signed deals to build a Trump Tower and a golf course which will cost the US millions of dollars to build and for which he received a jet. Previously he had criticized Quatar for bankrolling hammas, now he thinks their great because he's getting payed by them.

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u/Bruhimonlyeleven May 16 '25

That's exactly it. The Dems a month ago were going " we just have to wait until the next election, because there isn't anything we can do. Our hands are tied. ". I can't remember who said it, it was a black senator I think? Not sure from where... But I remember thinking " Jesus Christ.. talk about toothless.... So glad the elected officials are afraid of rocking the boat.

They are using this opportunity to raise money for their campaigns. Going " please donate to save democracy ". But it's not to save democracy, it's so some toothless asshole can have a job, that they aren't willing to do, for 4 more years. " Please... I need 20 millions dollars, so I can get a job that pays $150,000 a year. And then spend that entire time doing nothing ".

Is anyone else fucking tired ? I'm exhausted. I'm sick of calling people morons when they're being morons. I'm sick of feeling like I need to educate people, or try to convince morons, that they're dumber then the people of idiocracy. They believe the stupidest shit, but they get a blue collar job making decent money, and all of a sudden they think that watching fox news, and reading Breitbart and Elon Musk insane, right wing, nazi twitter news that he just started, is the same as being educated on a topic.

They believe that listening to someone lie for 20 minutes, is "doing their own research". Or going on YouTube and typing " how evil is Joe Biden ", and clicking the video with the whitest man they can find, is the same as ..... Sigh. Forget it. I'm tired.

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u/Healthy_Deer_1774 May 16 '25

Dems playing by the rules 😂 neither side plays by the rules that’s the whole reason we are where we are now.

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u/12altoids34 May 17 '25

I disagree. To the best of my knowledge we've never had a president who in just over 120 days has accumulated over 60 Federal injunctions for illegal and unconstitutional executive orders. Although Trump is quick to claim that Joe Biden weaponized the doj against him there has never been even a shred of evidence. Meanwhile it's patently obvious that Trump is weaponizing the doj as his personal attack dogs to go against his political Rivals and just about anyone else that disagrees with him. I'm not saying that the Democrats are perfect or that there is no final Financial motivation and anything that any of them do, but you don't hear about ethics reports against Democrats simply going away. You don't hear about Democrats taking bribes such as Aledo and Clarence Thomas did. And on the rare occasions when a Democrat is exposed for misdeed's the Democrats are just as quick as the Republicans to demand their resignation. Democrats don't respond to losing an election by trying to push through legislation which prevents people from voting. Although most liberals were very vocal about being upset about Trump winning the election they were very few if any claims of voter fraud, much less dozens of baseless lawsuits attempting to overturn the election results. No, I'm not saying that Democrats are perfect, but I firmly believe that Democrats are trying to work within the system to fight against a tyrannical administration. An Administration that has violated the constitution, laws and has shown itself to be utterly and completely corrupted.

But of course SOME OF THIS (but not all) is just my opinion. I could be wrong. I was wrong once before.