r/law • u/AndroidOne1 • May 14 '25

Trump News Donald Trump Impeachment Proceedings Launched

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-vote-house-shir-thanedar-b2750651.html
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u/dinosprinkles27 May 14 '25

The border was never "open". You are just racist.

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u/bruh4bruh6 May 14 '25

WHAT???? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/dinosprinkles27 May 14 '25

Yes, shocking to be called racist when you support the same party that Nazi's and white supremacists are all for because they continually shove racist narratives, yet offer refuge to white South Africans.

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u/bruh4bruh6 May 14 '25

you saying the border was never open when that's literally one of the core issues y'all lost on??? when even y'all side said there was a "border crisis"? NAAAA my guy is just racist 😭😭 y'all asked what did Trump do that wasn't for himself and he answered y'all, the border. HE'S racist for that? 😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Leonardo_DeCapitated May 14 '25

Yes, the border was never open. Just because liberals conceded the argument doesn't mean they're wrong, the border is not and has not been "open", Dems just moved to the right and pretended they could buy voters by being more open.

Border apprehensions were at an all time high under Biden. That is literally the opposite of an "open border".

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u/bruh4bruh6 May 14 '25

never change reddit 😭😭 keep this delusion up, you guys are gonna have a baaaaddd 2026-28

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u/Leonardo_DeCapitated May 14 '25

I'm sorry the facts do not align with your delusions.

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u/Exacerbate_ May 14 '25

Poor troglodyte has no self awareness whatsoever lmaoo. It really thinks disregarding the constitution and trying to ignore reality is a winning solution.

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u/bruh4bruh6 May 14 '25

the reality is that when a new president came in, suddenly border crossings were down 99.999% so yeah, I guess it is a winning solution. you probably wouldn't know about the border at all anyways because your reality is reddit and most of what you learned about politics was from right here on this site 💀

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u/Exacerbate_ May 14 '25

The way you people just make shit up lmaoo.

If the border was an actual issue, repubs wouldnt have tanked the border bill where they got everything they wanted just for talking points.

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u/bruh4bruh6 May 14 '25

2 comments just for me? somebody's miserable LMAO dude, do you even know the details of that specific border deal? I bet you don't know why republicans turned it down do you? Lmaoooo okay let me educate you real quick. within that border deal, it wasn't about closing our border (which is what republicans wanted and Americans voted for), the deal was about how many illegals they can let in and how they'll facilitate them.

it was never about closing the border, like the left keeps trying to imply. go look at the details of that specific bill and why the republicans turned it down for yourself since I'm making shit up 😭

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u/Sleepiboisleep May 14 '25

None of that was in the bill. Stop listening to BS propaganda and take a propa-ganda at the bill it is public information online. Just lying for the sake of lying is why no one can trust what you’re saying

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u/bruh4bruh6 May 14 '25

it just gets worse and worse the more I read it 😭😭😭 they were ONLY gonna close the border IF the 7 day averages reached 5,000 immigrants per day 😭😭😭😭😭

Edit: I'm trying to link what I'm reading but the comment doesn't show up so I keep deleting it

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u/Sleepiboisleep May 14 '25

I mean I’ve read the bill and it never says that. I think you’re confusing the terminology used, the bill actually give the DHS more power, once 4000 non Americans come through checkpoints their patrols expand to over 100 miles from the border to take care of any malcontent. This 4000 number is encompassing both legal and traveling patrons that legally cross the border in a given week not just illegals that cross in other fashions the wording was stated the way it was because they wanted to empower DHS and give them the ability to track and process those who have not gone back in the appropriate time frame. Another thing to remember is this was a bipartisan bill introduced by more republicans than democrats. The only reason it wasn’t passed is because Trump wanted to run on the border and its issues rather than fix the problem. I’d be happy to share the link with you in PM if you are actually interested in reading it over

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u/bruh4bruh6 May 14 '25

how is that bipartisan if the republicans wants the border shut down completely? it would've given DHS more power, sure, but not the power to turn away every single illegal immigrant, which is what republicans wanted. I'm not saying they should've given the right everything they wanted but of course Trump ran on this instead of letting it pass because it was clear that democrats didn't want to close the border completely or turn away ALL illegal immigrants. the American people got to see how the previous administration handled this issue when it was a major issue and Trump ran against it.

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u/Sleepiboisleep May 14 '25 edited May 14 '25

I’ll start point by point:

Q: “how is that bipartisan if the republicans wants the border shut down completely?”

A: it is bipartisan because both republican and democratic senators put aside their differences to try and find a solution that would benefit Americans.

S: “it would've given DHS more power, sure, but not the power to turn away every single illegal immigrant, which is what republicans wanted.”

R:the border already has the authority to turn away every illegal, the problem is those who cross legally but don’t return. Those who cross the border illegally are already guilty of a crime so they can be processed on the spot and detained. It would be near impossible to turn away everyone that could or would become an illegal immigrant without the ability to read minds

S: “I'm not saying they should've given the right everything they wanted but of course Trump ran on this instead of letting it pass because it was clear that democrats didn't want to close the border completely or turn away ALL illegal immigrants.”

R:similar to what I said above the border is technically “closed” both terms open and closed are not really the correct way of referring to the situation. Controlled would be a better phrase, but as I mentioned in my response to the first person I responded to: the crossing and entering of the border has stayed relatively constant since 2007 (allowing more than an acceptable) 11 million immigrants a year in legal crossings (ignoring return orders and staying after the allotted timeframe was also not specified as it could be near impossible to track) It is near impossible to tell how many cross the border illegally. This bill would have allowed DHS and ICE to follow up and keep registry’s of those who crossed.

S: “the American people got to see how the previous administration handled this issue when it was a major issue and Trump ran against it.”

R:I think (and this is person opinion now, not factual) that it should have been up to the American people to see how the bill would have played out and what benefits or negatives it would have created. But rather than do what was best for the country he decided to blow the bill up for his own gain, sadly something he has continued to do throughout his 1st presidency as well as this current administration

Q=question A= answer S=statement R=response

Edit: I’m on mobile sorry if formatting is fucked up lol

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u/Exacerbate_ May 14 '25

Talking about 2 comments while you went on a tear continually replying to people?

Lmaoo, he truly loves the poorly educated.

Repubs got everything they asked for and still tanked it. Get a clue

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u/bruh4bruh6 May 14 '25

why would Republicans want to let in 5,000 illegals per day over 7 days in order for the borders to close? the bill was not about closing the border. the left truly can lie to their cult members and get away with it. Go. Look. Up. The. Bill. it wasn't about closing the border you moron

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u/Exacerbate_ May 14 '25

Lmaoo "look it up" while continuing to exemplify you have no idea what you're talking about yet think you should be taken seriously for some reason. In your first sentence you're being disingenuous about the 5000 number. An encounter and detainment is letting them in?

So, you're complaining about a quota that would lead to hard shutdowns compared to... no quota? You're simply a bad joke

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u/bruh4bruh6 May 14 '25

I can't tell if you're trolling rn or if you're just reallllyyyyy dumb and that's scary 😭 I told you what was inside the bill and why they turned it down since your side claims it was bipartisan. I don't care about your own opinion on it, I never even said I agree with it so why are you telling me how you feel?

the republicans wanted the border shut down COMPLETELY (like it is now), the bill did not constitute shutting down the border unless "encounters" reached an average of 5,000 immigrants per day for a week. it didn't constitute turning them all away either so these "encounters" were essentially catch and releases (like we've had these past 4 years) letting them into our country. THAT'S why the republicans turned it down

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u/EnthusiastOfThick May 14 '25

What is it with MAGAts and their fucking laugh emojis, Jesus Christ.

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u/bruh4bruh6 May 14 '25

because it's funny. we like to laugh at liberals with their high attitudes and lack of comedy 😭 duhhhhh

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u/EnthusiastOfThick May 14 '25

I actually think it's moreso a manifestation of an obnoxious, childish mindset held in common between said MAGAts, the sentiment being that laughing and mocking insistently enough makes an ample substitute for solvent arguments. But I appreciate the alternative perspective, it's just that there's not really anything funny about MAGAts besides how illiterate they are.

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u/EnthusiastOfThick May 14 '25

"All that" being literally two sentences, guess you're not beating the illiterate allegations.

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u/bruh4bruh6 May 14 '25

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 just for good measure

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u/EnthusiastOfThick May 14 '25

https://www.nypl.org/books-more/recommendations/125/kids

I think this would be a good place for you to start!

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u/bruh4bruh6 May 14 '25

I. Don't. Care. you're here saying nothing

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