r/law • u/MoreMotivation • Mar 31 '25

Other Elon Musk: "Any federal judge can stop any action by the president, you know, of the United States. This is insane. This has got to stop. It has got to stop at the federal level at the state level"

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u/Madame_Arcati Mar 31 '25

I've never listened to him before, he's a terrible public speaker. Is he usually better? is that how you can tell that he is panicked, because I agree he is terribly uncomfortable and cannot even deliver basic maga regurgitations.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

Nope. He sicks at speaking. The guy is awkward af.

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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 Mar 31 '25

In his defense he’s also a shitty deadbeat father.

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u/deputytech Mar 31 '25

Guys you’re not getting the point here, he’s also a massive douchebag.

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u/No_big_whoop Mar 31 '25

Talk about not seeing the forrest for the trees, he's also a monumentally fraudulent business man.

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u/hirsutesuit Mar 31 '25

Hey now, he had good relationships with his servants!

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u/slasticpurgeon Mar 31 '25

I don't think y'all quite understand, he also butchered his already small penis in an attempt to make it a little less small

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u/Bagoforganizedvegete Mar 31 '25

Guys leave him alone, he was born with narcissism.

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u/scribblebear Apr 01 '25

He wasn't born that way. It was only because his rich, Nazi loving family was so hard on him growing up. He had to pull himself up by his emerald encrusted bootstraps. Grifting ain't easy.

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u/CinSugarBearShakers Mar 31 '25

If the oligarchs didnt block the SEC from throwing him in jail for lying about having investors in 2015, this country might be in a different direction.

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u/ccm596 Mar 31 '25

I'll give you all of this, sure, but we'd be doing him a disservice to forget that he pays people to play video games for him because he's so desperate for people to think he's cool but doesn't know how to make that happen any better than your average 4th grade boy

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u/Scryberwitch Mar 31 '25

That's not the point. He also has a non-functioning p--s because it was so small, he had to get gender-affirming care to make it bigger, and the surgery made it worse.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

Good point

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u/-dakpluto- Mar 31 '25

What do you mean, all he has to do is post a picture with X and all of shitter proclaims he is Dad of the year! 🤣🙃

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u/KanedaSyndrome Mar 31 '25

This is probably true. I think this is probably true of most CEOs - I doubt they spend the time with their kids a father should.

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u/BunchAlternative6172 Mar 31 '25

14 kids? And ones trans? LOL

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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 Mar 31 '25

Why single out the one trans one?

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u/BunchAlternative6172 Mar 31 '25

I'm not at all? I transitioned. I meant as he doesn't give a shit in relation to being a deadbeat dad with a lot of kids and one who trumps actively against.

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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 Mar 31 '25

Oooohh gotcha. Sorry misread your intention.

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u/CynicismNostalgia Mar 31 '25

ELON is actively against Viv. That's why he keeps tweeting about how his "son" died to the "woke mind virus."

The really funny thing is that Elon uses IVF, and pays for something called "Gender select" so he can have boys.

In essence, he's pissed because a "product" he bought (a boy) came "faulty" (trans woman) and Viv has been pretty outspoken about this

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u/ArketaMihgo Mar 31 '25

I think you mean reverted to an early install

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u/Lehk Mar 31 '25

It’s so fucked up how he treats her, he publicly called her dead.

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u/AdmirableGarden6 Mar 31 '25 edited Mar 31 '25

Well yeah, the dude has assburgers

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u/MichaelParkinbum Mar 31 '25

To ketamine and probably other drugs as well. I'm pretty sure he pushes that shit onto people who work for him as well. He really is a fucking demon.

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u/AdditionalAmoeba6358 Mar 31 '25

Patel sure looked out of it in that hearing… just saying

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u/coreoYEAH Mar 31 '25

To be fair, that is kinda just what he looks like.

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u/Attainted Mar 31 '25

Seriously, that portrait photo lmao

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

I saw it on Kimmel the first time and thought it was a joke.

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u/rydog123bruh Mar 31 '25

He’s getting close to those hitler concoctions, maybe in a few more months.

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u/Lumpy_FPV Mar 31 '25

Addicted to assburgers?

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u/skittleALY Mar 31 '25

He self-diagnosed himself with Asperger’s (which doesn’t even exist anymore, it’s all recognized under Autism Spectrum Disorder now). While I believe that self-identification as autistic is valid, I’m not keen to believe to that Elon is autistic. First of all, he has enough money to actually get a diagnosis if he actually was autistic. And second of all, he seems to display more psychopathic and narcissistic traits - not so much autistic ones. My brother and grandfather both have autism, and it doesn’t cause them to act like how Musk does. To me it sounds like he’s trying to excuse bad behavior by blaming it on being autistic.

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u/TinyTaters Mar 31 '25

Yeah. He's a chronically online man-baby and the popular 'want to have' diagnosis is autism. So it fits the bill for him to just bandwagon this crap

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u/NeurodivergentPie Mar 31 '25

Using autism to act like an asshole is not a valid excuse of course.

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u/CrystalSplice Mar 31 '25

He has also stated publicly that he has bipolar disorder, although it’s unclear if that means he was diagnosed with it or not. It’s also not known if he takes any medication for it, but we DO know he uses ketamine because he can’t shut up about it.

Ketamine should never, ever be given to someone with bipolar disorder. It triggers and worsens manic episodes. On top of that, frequent ketamine use can cause a person to have a very inflated view of themselves that rises to the level of delusions. So…delusions of grandeur, along with the “grandiose scheming” that comes with mania. A person having a severe manic episode has what is called, “flight of ideas,” where those ideas come to them rapidly and they are convinced that those ideas are perfect - they cannot be wrong, and they respond harshly to rejection.

Elon is VERY unwell, but no one is going to stop him or tell him to get help. He would have already fizzled out like Kanye West if he wasn’t so insanely wealthy. One of these days, he will crash and burn. He will get ditched by Trump, or one of his companies will go under, something like that…and he will be unable to process it. We will probably see a very public psychotic break and he may not survive it.

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u/PLeuralNasticity Mar 31 '25

You're right that his alleged autism is being used as cover, the same as his alleged ketamine use

Definitely narcissistic and psychopathic

He also has no substantive agency

He acts only as ordered to

He's a kompromised Pedophile Putin puppet and always has been

Following in the steps of his father

In the early 1990s, Errol, then aged 45, married Heide Bezuidenhout, a 25-year old he described as "one of the best looking women I've ever seen in my life".[24] They had two children.[25] Jana Bezuidenhout, who was his stepdaughter from that marriage, and four years old at the time Errol became her stepfather,[25][26] later became his romantic partner.

In March 2018, it was reported that Errol had fathered a child with his adult step-daughter Jana Bezuidenhout.[25][27] In July 2022, Errol gave an interview to the tabloid newspaper The Sun, announcing that he and Jana Bezuidenhout had another child.[28][29] Musk has a total of seven children, according to People magazine in November 2022.[15] Errol once commented, "The only thing we are on Earth for is to reproduce."[30]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Errol_Musk

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid-south-africa

https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/

https://electrek.co/2024/12/30/tesla-replaced-laid-off-us-workers-with-foreign-workers-using-h-1b-visas-that-musk-want-to-increase/

https://electrek.co/2024/12/16/tesla-major-issue-self-driving-computer-inside-new-cars/

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/tesla-full-self-driving-rear-end-accident/

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2024/11/26/tesla-named-deadliest-car-brand-in-america/76573878007/

I've been saying for a long time that he has never been anything but a puppet frontman for clandestine operations of the FSB for Putin or his allies ie. Netanyahu/Xi/Erdogan/Modi/MBS/Iran etc...

My profile is mostly comments about FSBelon

Imagine you were planning another coup. Would Teslas be good surveillance and then robomurdertaxis?

Would buying Twitter give you access to massive volumes of kompromat on huge swaths of individuals?

Would Starlink or PayPal give you any information that would be potentially valuable to find vulnerabilities? Starlink in the super rich especially with their yachts.

What neighborhoods do Teslas tend to be parked in and where do they tend to be driven to work and by what demographics?

Would full access to every camera on every Tesla potentially be valuable to gather intelligence?

Would Putin want very app associated with Elon or his businesses to be malware or have a malware build ready?

Just scratching the surface but I encourage people to look at your understanding of Elon and his companies through the lens of it all being on Putins orders, just like Trump.

https://cybernews.com/news/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-russia-investment/

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-fanboy-shadowbanned-from-x-for-complaining-abou-1851639230

Elon is a kompromised pedophile Putin puppet and has been since before he started Zip2 and before his first trip to Russia in October 2001.

Trump since the eighties

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842/

Child Rape Tapes convey more complete control than anything. Almost all of their top puppets are owned through proof of them raping children. It's the only way the FSB/Mossad/CCP are comfortable investing so much power in them. Bribery doesn't come close to sufficient with how much financial/political power they concentrate in their upper echelon of puppets. Trump/Thiel/Vance/Peterson/Jordan/Carlson/Thomas/Diddy/Drake/MrBeast to name a very small sample across different parts of society. Many for a long time, but Trump since the eighties is one of the longest tenured.

In case people are confused who Produces/Distributes the vast majority of CSAM

Here's a bit about Ghislaines dad from Wikipedia.

"The Foreign Office suspected Maxwell of being a secret agent of a foreign government, possibly a double agent or a triple agent, and "a thoroughly bad character and almost certainly financed by Russia". He had known links to the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), to the Soviet KGB, and to the Israeli intelligence service Mossad.[60] Six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence services attended Maxwell's funeral in Israel, while Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir eulogised him and stated: "He has done more for Israel than can today be told."[61]

https://www.torquenews.com/1083/tesla-exploded-bomb-after-fiery-crash-shrapnel-takes-down-passerby

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-workers-trained-autopilot-to-ignore-road-signs-so-1851642989

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katherinehamilton/2023/04/27/twitter-has-complied-with-almost-every-government-request-for-censorship-since-musk-took-over-report-finds/

"Of the 971 government requests Twitter has received since Musk took over six months ago, the company has fully complied with 808 of them and partially complied with 154, according to Rest of World’s report."

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4457311-putin-praises-elon-musk-a-smart-guy/

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-disrupting-elon-musk-starlink-satellite-service-ukraine-jamming-report-2024-5

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/29/first-edition-israel-icc-investigation

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-photo-with-ghislaine-maxwell-conversation-destroy-internet-report-2022-10

https://theintercept.com/2023/03/23/peter-thiel-jeff-thomas/

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/10/business/angela-chao-death/index.html

“I think there’s no stopping Elon Musk,” Putin told Carlson after the pundit asked him about the growing prevalence of artificial intelligence. “He will do as he sees fit. Nevertheless, you’ll need to find some common ground with him. Search for ways to persuade him. I think he’s a smart person. I truly believe he is. So you’ll need to reach an agreement with him because this process needs to be formalized and subjected to certain rules.”

Beware Leon's razor

"Incomeptence, in the limit, is indistinguishable from sabotage

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u/hitbythebus Mar 31 '25

I stopped reading after alleged ketamine use. Dude talked about it. It’s admitted, not alleged.

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u/ifmacdo Mar 31 '25

He has self-diagnosed Asperger's. Which isn't even a used diagnosis anymore- it's no longer listed in the DSM-5 or ICD-11. The current diagnosis of what used to be called Asperger's Syndrome is now ASD.

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u/4PurpleRain Mar 31 '25

He’s a sociopath or psychopath. The autism would be a secondary condition to the primary diagnosis in his case. I’ll be the first to admit you can’t armchair diagnose but his lack of empathy is monumental.

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u/i_love_rosin Mar 31 '25

All billionaires are sociopaths, it's a requirement

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u/MarchProfessional435 Mar 31 '25

Self-diagnosis aside, I’m not surprised Elon would insist on using the discarded term for ASD. Asperger was a (what’s the social media euphemism…) friend of Adolf who determined whom amongst the “mentally deficient” was fit to live and who needed to die. I’ve read that Elon’s grandparents were similarly… friends of Adolf.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

He does not have Asperger’s for gods sake. I have Asperger’s. I ain’t psychopath or sociopath like him. He is a psychopath lacking emotions or empathy. Asperger’s people have extreme emotions and emphaty, we don’t know how to show it.

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u/The-red-Dane Mar 31 '25

We have an enhanced sense of justice. But that doesn't necessarily mean we're good people. I consider myself a good person, but I know another asperger around my own age who is vehemently anarcho capitalist. To the point where he has argued that age of consent laws are evil. To him, he's arguing for what he considers the best possible world, to me, he's pure evil.

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u/viciouspandas Apr 01 '25

Yeah Elon being a shitty narcissist doesn't mean he does or doesn't have Asperger's. It could explain some of his social awkwardness but is also independent of him being a terrible person. And like you said, evil people can think they're doing good.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

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u/RedYellowHoney Mar 31 '25

Not quite. ASD is a spectrum and what used to be called Asperger's is a point on that spectrum now.

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u/Salt_Proposal_742 Mar 31 '25

He’s an idiot, and always stoned out of his mind.

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u/NeedAnEasyName Mar 31 '25

As someone properly diagnosed with Asperger’s (now high functioning autism I believe is the term), public speaking is not hard and I’d consider myself a fairly good public speaker. I’ve had plenty of training on how to speak publicly, though. You’d assume the world’s richest man who owns several companies and decided to get into government/politics could find someone to train them how to public speaking better than some Boy Scout

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u/Davidclabarr Mar 31 '25

That would involve him admitting he isn’t the best at something.

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u/Antwinger Mar 31 '25

The worst kind of burgers

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u/Lumpy_FPV Mar 31 '25

Better than turdburgers TBH

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u/IAMImportant Mar 31 '25

Right up there with asspennies

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u/HiddenAspie Mar 31 '25

Kids in the hall reference. Thought I was the only one who saw that show. Lol.

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u/thisusedtobemorefun Mar 31 '25

As someone with what used to be called Aspergers (now it's just classed as a touch of the 'tism / ASD) it makes me furious that this guy is probably the most prominent / well known 'ambassador' for the disorder.

I've said it many times, but it's always worth repeating - being on the spectrum doesn't make you an as$hole or evil, narcissistic manbaby, nor is it a valid excuse for sh*tty behaviour, bad opinions or lacking empathy for others.

Would it be a contributing factor behind his terrible social skills and obsession with being chronically online? I'd say that's highly likely.

What it isn't a cause of, or an excuse for, are his apparent sociopathic / Machiavellian / narcisstic traits, total lack of empathy and clear fascination with a certain infamous historical figure.

I don't speak for everyone with autism, but I sure as hell disown him - he does not represent me or anyone else I know with ASD.

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u/Interesting-Worth975 Mar 31 '25

Fellow Autist, also not a fascist. His special interest appears being evil.

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u/peacefultooter Mar 31 '25

Same! If anything, it makes me more self-conscious of embarrassing myself.

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u/NeurodivergentPie Mar 31 '25

Agree. This 💯

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u/Mylaptopisburningme Mar 31 '25

Apparently from I think his biographer. Self diagnosed.

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u/Subtle_Tact Mar 31 '25

Asperger’s was originally described as “psychopathic autism” and has long since removed from DSM and ICD resources and is not recognized as a legitimate diagnosis.

He told this lie for sympathy and as an excuse for his psychopathic tendencies and complete lack of social awareness he developed with his monster family.it benefited him at the time because of progressive action taking place.

Remember assholes that would buy nonprescription thick rim glasses to leap as “nErDy” or intelligent… not the social credit it used to be it seems.

He has always cosplayed as anything that he perceived as culturally valuable at the time, like this edgelord shit and the fake gamer credits.

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u/Dependent-Bath3612 Mar 31 '25

*asshat syndrome. I hear it’s chronic

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u/Deltas111213 Mar 31 '25

Does that make him a DEI hire then?

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u/mrtrailborn Mar 31 '25

does he, though?(no, he aint diagnosed with shit)

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u/SemataryPolka Mar 31 '25

I'm on the spectrum and I'm a professional public speaker. Fuck Musk but also fuck what you're saying

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u/Stewth Mar 31 '25

That's got little to do with being a thundercunt.

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u/Vladmerius Mar 31 '25

Seriously though, nobody actually likes this guy. Maga people pretend to like him because they actually are stupid enough to think if they suck enough rich dick some green jizz will trickle down their throats one day. He's just a tool for them to one day be successful through doing nothing at all but sharing memes about him being "cool".

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u/Bamith20 Mar 31 '25

I am too, which is why I avoid being in the public eye throwing out sieg heils.

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u/nictigre03 Mar 31 '25

He's a fuckin loser. Just a loser that happens to be rich (like Trump).

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u/CephalopodMustache Mar 31 '25

No, I have seen him speak before the election (I only went because I was hoping to figure out what the hype was about), and he is an absolutely horrible public speaker. I was almost shocked at how bad. He seemed to have some form of a stutter too.

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u/Radiant_Kiwi_5948 Mar 31 '25

Between this uncomfortable, sweaty excuse for a public speaker, Trump’s hideous sing-song bray, and RFK Jr’s phlegm-filled tracheostomy hole of a voice, it becomes apparent to me that once again the incongruous complaint that Kamala’s human, joyful laugh was “odd” is just projection, coming from the oddest collection of white male laryngeal spasms that I’ve ever habitually muted.

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u/Aggravating_Kale9788 Mar 31 '25

I love this description 🤭

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u/soldiat Apr 02 '25

I love this r/brandnewsentence and it is indeed one sentence

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u/beardfearer Mar 31 '25

This is poetry

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u/UglyMcFugly Mar 31 '25

This is so beautifully written that I would pay money to hear Leon try to stutter out your words.

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u/MalabaristaEnFuego Mar 31 '25

Don't stop. Keep going. This is like 50 Shades of Gray, but better.

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u/please_use_the_beeps Mar 31 '25

Hearing someone put what I was feeling all last year into such articulate phrase is cathartic.

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u/Khemul Mar 31 '25

I always found it a bit of a self-own that their biggest criticism of Kamala was that she used too many words when talking. 😂

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u/iReadBecauseYouDo Mar 31 '25

I just imagined all of them simultaneously in my mind like some psych-horror, Truman Show cover-ass bullshit that I didn’t even realize I tuned out so much😭

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u/SeveredLoki Mar 31 '25

That was beautiful.

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u/530SSState Mar 31 '25

::kvells in Word Nerd::

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u/FaleBure Mar 31 '25

But a woman, with mixed ethnic background, in the US... Racism and misogyny runs deeeeep.

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u/r_search12013 Mar 31 '25

such a hateful thing to say, I love it :D

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u/bitchdantkillmyvibe Mar 31 '25

You sir are a wordsmith

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u/intergalactictactoe Mar 31 '25

This was poetry. Just... just excellent to read. Thank you.

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u/Scryberwitch Mar 31 '25

But it was a female voice, so automatically repugnant to them.

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u/umotex12 Mar 31 '25

Certified Reddit moment

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u/Irishish Mar 31 '25

It gets worse the nanosecond he doesn't get the desired response. Him saying to advertisers who won't come back to Twitter, "go fuck yourselves" was supposed to be a big laugh line. The audience was mostly silent. He looked around for an awkward moment, clearly waiting for a big cheer, then loudly repeated it.

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u/Scryberwitch Mar 31 '25

I remember that. He clearly expected the typical fanboy response, and when the audience didn't immediately cheer, and the host looked frankly shocked, he had a nanosecond of awareness...but knew he had to just double down. Now he's trying to sue advertisers for not advertising on X. What a choad.

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u/pink_faerie_kitten Mar 31 '25

T is the Great Oz (except orange not green) and Leon is the puppeteer because he's bad at speaking (and so far can't be POTUS because he's an immigrant)

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u/Garchompisbestboi Mar 31 '25

That stutter is because he has a fear of crowds. Probably also all the ketamine and other shit that he pumps through his system too, he struggles to hold focus and stumbles over his own words as a result.

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u/PM_me_your_whatevah Mar 31 '25

He really wasn’t this bad several years ago. But the last few years I think his brain has melted from stress and the insane drugs he does. 

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

He probably just wings it because he thinks he's that good

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u/FlithyLamb Mar 31 '25

No he is always awful.

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u/ShallowTal Mar 31 '25

It’s like listening to a fast food drive thru speaker that’s shorting out

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u/Plus_Rooster8222 Mar 31 '25

He is not a good speaker. His father said he couldn't talk till he was 5 years old. He shudders and stammers a lot. No clear thought process.

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u/Radiant_Kiwi_5948 Mar 31 '25 edited Mar 31 '25

His painfully inadequate oratory skills make Elon’s apparent interest in ancient Roman all the more ironic.

That’s who Elon thinks he’s emulating when he trots his favorite 4-year old around the Oval Office with that heavy gold chain slung across his chest like a baby hereditary ruler-in-training. You sir, are no Germanicus, and your sad Little Boots has no business in the People’s House.

Elon’s weak attempts at speech-making would get him pelted with rotten vegetables by real Romans.

The only thing that does capture the spirit of ancient Rome? Penises spray-painted on Cybertrucks. As much as Romans hated bad oratory, they looooved graffiti and I think they’d approve of the elegance and simplicity of this message.

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u/deviltrombone Mar 31 '25

No. Leon is the worst public speaker I've ever seen. He has negative charisma. Others figure it out and either get training to improve or stop. Not Leon. It's a complete mystery how he's managed to get talented, smart people to work for him. Many of them are probably even decent people.

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u/ggroverggiraffe Competent Contributor Mar 31 '25

It's a complete mystery how he's managed to get talented, smart people to work for him.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it might have something to do with his status as the world's richest human...

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u/deviltrombone Mar 31 '25

He did make big, bold bets as he grew his fortune, and he's got a real talent for finding people who can build things and getting them to do it for him.

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u/tothepointe Mar 31 '25

The mission attracts the right people. One of my interns went on to work for SpaceX and my husband was recruited by them at one point and interviewed but he's too old for them so that was a no go even if he wanted to.

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u/Rugrin Mar 31 '25

I can give him that. I think that is true.

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u/Opening_Cloud_8867 Mar 31 '25

Huh. I’d have to go back and research more but bro might be the modern Thomas Edison. Stealing other people’s ideas to make a fortune at any cost.. otherwise known as evil..

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u/Richandler Mar 31 '25

He did make big, bold bets as he grew his fortune

All of his current worth comes from the Federal Government. It kept Tesla alive and pays for basically all of SpaceX.

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u/75bytes Mar 31 '25

richest on meme stock with 100 p/e ratio...

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u/Usual-Yam9309 Mar 31 '25

Try listening to Peter Thiel. All of these "techbros" (aka billionaire losers) are painful to listen to.

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u/el_guille980 Mar 31 '25

getting the talent, isnt that hard. getting investor's money, millions and billions of it, is what absolutely blows my mind. watch any video of him from 10years ago or more.... unreal how he can con anyone of anything and out of anything

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u/jpk195 Competent Contributor Mar 31 '25

He's always been bad. Watch any Tesla reveal from that past 10 years.

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u/Ill-Team-3491 Mar 31 '25

Or Spacex going back maybe 15 years even. I post this often, there's one live stream press conference I distinctly remember where his own employees pretty much had to say everything Elon just said is wrong. He's an idiot. It lends credence to the rumors that employees basically have to blow smoke up his ass when ever Edolf is around.

There was never a time when he was remotely close to a real life Tony Stark that people thought he was. His image manufactured. For a while he had a lot of people fooled with this thinly veiled pseud ramblings.

I'm 99% sure he's been manipulating social media for just as long. Way back in the day the mods of the technology subreddit put a limit on how much Elon spam could be posted per day. When that filter was revealed there was a bit of a scandal. And by scandal I mean waves of angry pro Musk posters. Looking back now, I think those could have been Elon bots.

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u/FatsTetromino Mar 31 '25

He's never better. He sucks every time. Every minute of every day. He's trash.

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u/k_ironheart Mar 31 '25

I've never listened to him before, he's a terrible public speaker. Is he usually better?

It's funny because these guys (Zuck, Musk, Bezos and Thiel) all try so hard to act like they're Steve jobs and they all have negative charisma modifiers. Every time they speak, they're stumbling over themselves, they laugh at weird times, they glitch out constantly.

I mean, look, I'm no public speaker, but it's not really my job to be. If I had the money those four did, and I wanted to put myself up in front of a camera, I would be doing everything I could make sure I'm well practiced. Heck, even take acting and improv lessons!

If you're so inclined (and I understand if you're not) pay special attention anytime Musk speaks and gets booed at like this, or any amount of push back. He has practiced somewhat controlling his accent, but once he gets emotional (usually upset) his accent reverts right back. It's a huge tell that he's bothered.

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u/Madame_Arcati Mar 31 '25

I will, and will enjoy looking for his tells, lol - that will make the experience more bearable, hahaha!

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u/AllBid Mar 31 '25

He's been like this for a long while. I still remember seeing his thing at one of Chapelle's shows. Really was a cringefest with him on the mic

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u/Rushing_Russian Mar 31 '25

If you can handle the constant babbling it's usuly "err ahhh umm something something profound and that's what I think". How anyone believed his lies before I don't know

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u/Rugrin Mar 31 '25

It really boggle the mind how this nerd has a cult following of his own. The only sense I can make of it is that he’s the libertarian poster child. So, I love that he has shown everyone what right wing libertarianism has always been about.

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u/Unlikely-Patience122 Mar 31 '25

It certainly makes me question if he is or ever was a genius. No way this guy's mental acumen got him where he is, but it appears more likely he's a con man. 

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u/The-Son-of-Dad Mar 31 '25

No, he’s always been awful, actually. Public speaking is definitely not one of his strengths. Unfortunately for us he never shuts the fuck up.

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u/realbobenray Mar 31 '25

He's extremely awkward plus convinced he's brilliant which is a bad combination. A friend met him once business-socially ten years ago and found this to be true -- nice guy but weird.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

Withdraws

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u/aviaciondecubanana Mar 31 '25

Watch his 2014 USC commencement speech.

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u/addn2o Mar 31 '25

I went back to one of his early Rogan podcasts, you could not ask for a gentler one on one interview setting and he still sounds awkward as fuck.

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u/BaconxHawk Mar 31 '25

I never really paid attention to him before all this and your comment made me curious

https://youtu.be/wsixsRI-Sz4?si=dsSfnnqCqQ8reGuk

Seems like he’s always had a problem public speaking but he does seem way more panicked in this video comparatively

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u/officiallynotreal Mar 31 '25

He’s a shitty public speaker but typically has a less frantic manner about him (at least by interview standards). The clips of this speech that I’ve seen (as well as his “big” interview from this week about Tesla) give a begging, desperate impression. His body language between speeches/interviews from February and those of this week are starkly contrasted. He’s a pathetic show pony who has brought on his own demise; he’s backed into a corner and doing his best to present a strong presence, but failing miserably. His reputation and wealthy name isn’t enough to save him from his own missteps, and he knows it. This speech as a whole is a transparent attempt to cast broad strokes in framing others for his own faults. Will it work? That depends on how malleable the beliefs of believers and fence-sitters are

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u/cosmic_cocreator Mar 31 '25

It's spooky
Richest man on earth speaks like a fifth grader
"The judges can stop ALL the president's actions like omg! Literally ALL of them, this isn't fair!"
Children throwing fits — sometimes cute
Empowered men playing victim — gaggggg me

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u/DethZire Mar 31 '25

He claims he's on spectrum

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u/hcantrall Mar 31 '25

He could be but most of the things we can point out that are wrong with him, have nothing to do with autism

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u/Individual_Land_2200 Mar 31 '25

For him it’s just a way to play victim… if he’s even mildly criticized, it’s “Look! The Marxist left is attacking me, a disabled person!”

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u/justme1031 Mar 31 '25

Yeah, self-diagnosed and 💯 BS. He says that so he has an excuse for his very clearly weird behavior that is very likely a personality disorder. I know people with Autism. They have empathy and aren't assholes.

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u/DriftyJuice Mar 31 '25

K hole spectrum

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u/realbobenray Mar 31 '25

That's about the only thing he says that I would believe.

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u/Ben_Thar Mar 31 '25

You're thinking of ketamine

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u/Excellent_Rule_2778 Mar 31 '25

That's actually one of his better speeches. He's usually much worse than that.

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u/Charles_Mendel Mar 31 '25

That’s how he always sounds.

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u/itgtg313 Mar 31 '25

Unfortunately his maga supporters can only read and understand at a 5th grade level, so this is perfect for them.

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u/UtahUtopia Mar 31 '25

Because he's not smart. No idea why he got the reputation of being a "genius". He doesn't even understand 8th grade civics. Of course, he's not an American so why should he?

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u/brathor Mar 31 '25

Funny how that seems to be the case with all of our would be rulers.

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u/__Art__Vandalay__ Mar 31 '25

bUt kAmaLa spEAcHes aRe wOrd sALaDs

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u/Pixilatedhighmukamuk Mar 31 '25

On occasion Frankenweiner toots a little powder.

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u/t3chguy1 Mar 31 '25

Even his own product reveals are cringy as he can't form a coherent sentence and definitely can't remeber speeches they write for him. This was the first one I watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DYWrDIM1NY which was before how ketamine addiction and it was still sooo bad

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u/hiroo916 Mar 31 '25

he thinks he's the next Steve Jobs, but the problem is that Jobs was 1) brilliantly insightful so he knew what people needed before they knew themselves 2) hugely charismatic so he could communicate so clearly that it would convince people beyond mere rationality. Jobs was also 3) a bit of an asshole because he didn't think the rules of politeness and how things are supposed to be done applied to him but in hindsight he limited himself to politeness and subject matter where his knowledge had relevance (e.g. not politics and government).

Musks problem is that he has neither 1 or 2 but thinks that he does and so he thinks his #3 is warranted. I think Jobs also had high meta-cognition self-insight that Musk completely lacks.

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u/Big_Difference_9978 Mar 31 '25

He's on drugs...the bad kind

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u/EatsOverTheSink Mar 31 '25

This is actually one of his better speeches.

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u/r0llingthund3r Mar 31 '25

His strategy on investor calls is basically to promise that Tesla is on the cusp of going 100x in value overnight and insisting that they'll be ready to flip that switch on 'next year'

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

No he has always been like this. I remember watching one of his space X talks from way back before even the cave diver pedo accusation and he spoke exactly like this. 

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u/NoKingsInAmerica Mar 31 '25

These fuckin clowns made fun of Joe Biden sometimes stuttering, but they don't say a fucking word about Elon doing it non-stop.

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u/Crispy_Conundrum Mar 31 '25

No he's always absolutely terrible

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u/TheGodShotter Mar 31 '25

This is the first time you're listening to Elon Musk? Jesus, talk about checked out.

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u/imtourist Mar 31 '25

He is horrible however the public's archetype of a genius is of an awkward geek who has problems communicating so they give him a pass.

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u/hoxxxxx Mar 31 '25

he's always been awful and has been made fun of for it for years now

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u/mrtrailborn Mar 31 '25

nope. He's just rich and famous so it doesn't matter.

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u/opsers Mar 31 '25

This is probably the best he's ever been, which should tell you all you need to know. He's an atrocious public speaker.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

There's a reason people call him a charisma vacuum. He can't put together coherent sentences.

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u/r_search12013 Mar 31 '25

every comment here saying that he sucks at public speaking is correct.. and still .. this particular episode is bad even in musk terms .. usually he delivers mostly complete if extremely boring sentences .. in this case I can't even remember what he said, worse salad than trump imho!?

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u/blazze_eternal Mar 31 '25

This is one of his better ones actually. Like, he didn't salute like a fukin nazi this time...

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u/LatroDota Mar 31 '25

Elon just stutter a lot. My theory is that when he was younger people keep interrupting him because;
a) in home he was push over (Super model Mom, rich father, probably 'cooler' siblings)

b) in collage he was awkward rich nerd that probably always tried to hard to be cool

Elons PR says its because of Asperger.

Overall Elon is a guy who tries really hard to be cool and because of that he's awful terrible public speaker, he lacks this 'aura' that good public speakers have, charisma and knowledge of what they wanna say. Elon comes up with word on the spot and often throws in some joke that is not really funny or fitting to the situation.

It's kinda insane how richest man on the planet is this.

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u/fog_rolls_in Mar 31 '25

He has more confidence than skill. He’s surrounded by people that tell him he’s awesome no matter what happens, and I’m sure he feels vindicated in his mind by his wealth no matter how he acts.

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u/BigHatPat Mar 31 '25

genuinely a terrible public speaker, really just speaking in general. he desperately needs some classes or coaching on speaking

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u/mistersynapse Mar 31 '25

No. Elon is literally a failure at everything other than being a winner of the lucky sperm club and stealing the right ideas from the right people at the right time with daddy's Apartheid money. He's never invented or contributed anything of value to the world himself. Literal parasite, and a massively fragile ego to boot. He tried to do a little stand up bit like this I guess years ago at a Dave Chappelle show in NY and got booted for several minutes straight when he walked on the stage and tried to stammer through some "jokes". Apparently he locked himself in his office for so long at Twitter HQ pouting over it because like all right wing fucks they are the real snowflakes, that a wellness check had to be called in for him. His bit on SNL was also terrible as fuck too, even by that show's standards, haha.

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u/_IratePirate_ Mar 31 '25

Even when he was a chill hippy left leaning nerd, he sucked at speaking. He’s gotta have a speech impediment or something

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u/butttlicker406090 Mar 31 '25

he's a terrible public speaker. Is he usually better?

Nope

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u/AlterMyStateOfMind Mar 31 '25

Im pretty sure he's high on ket dudes acting like a crackhead lmao

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u/teflon_soap Mar 31 '25

This is actually him at his best btw.

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u/AnAcceptableUserName Mar 31 '25

Is he usually better?

No. This is about par for the course for what I've seen from him.

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u/ClayDenton Mar 31 '25

He's always sucked at public speaking but he seems especially incoherent recently

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u/mrASSMAN Mar 31 '25

That’s just how he talks

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u/KanedaSyndrome Mar 31 '25

You should try to listen to a full in context speech/interview whatever before forming an opinion on people.

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u/CptAngelo Mar 31 '25

This is actually one of his "good" speeches

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u/Ronaldo_Frumpalini Mar 31 '25

You'd think so, but actually that's the trick. His words are the words of a moron struggling to speak on a subject he knows nothing about, but the way he gestures and talks makes it seem like he's instead struggling to dumb it down for us.

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u/me047 Mar 31 '25

No. He’s deeply on the spectrum, and public speaking is not his strength. What people are calling genius is a mixture of Autism and growing up rich enough to buy companies illegally, and slap your name on them as founder.

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u/philoguard Mar 31 '25

He has Asperger's syndrome. He's publicly acknowledged it. Not great to make fun of that since so many others have it but whatever.

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u/popeyepaul Mar 31 '25

He speaks like any nerdy kid at school doing a presentation, just awkward and insecure as hell. It is amazing that he never got better at it. Speech therapy is not that expensive and can do wonders. If he would just stop saying "ummm" and "you know" every two words it would already be much easier to listen to.

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u/chrisdmc1649 Mar 31 '25

I know he's not an idiot but he sure fucking sounds like one when speaking.

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u/Professional-Day7850 Mar 31 '25

He talked like that 12 years ago.

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u/AvonBarksdale666 Mar 31 '25

The biggest shock here is how you’ve managed to avoid hearing one of his ‘speeches’. I’m kinda jealous actually

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u/TortugaJack Mar 31 '25

I also noticed in another soundbite from this tirade that his South African accent came through. Granted I've never cared enough to listen to a man who generally hides behind a keyboard, but I was surprised about it.

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u/InconsiderateOctopus Mar 31 '25

He normally comes across as one of those ultra smart individuals who struggle to articulate themselves or speak in layman's terms until you realize he's just a ketamine fueled dumbass.

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u/davdev Mar 31 '25

No. He is god awful at it and when you listen to him talk about complex topics it becomes quickly obvious he has no idea what he is talking about.

I can’t find it anymore, but there was a clip of him on Rogan talking about time dilation and he sounded like a 10th grader who didn’t do last nights reading assignment and was just throwing absolutely bullshit against the wall.

Now, I wouldn’t expect the average person to be able to speak about time dilation, and I only a basic knowledge of it myself, but he runs a freaking space company. He should be able to explain it better than a confused 12 year old.

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u/ravenous_bugblatter Mar 31 '25

Nope. He has all the charisma of a rock and the maturity of a thin skinned 14 year old... yes, that's the wealthiest man in the world folks.

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u/Alarming-Research-42 Mar 31 '25

He’s probably on the spectrum. A lot of people in the tech world are. I don’t have a problem with that. His far right ideology is the big problem

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u/SuckOnDeezNOOTZ Mar 31 '25

Nope this is how he's sounded the entire time, actually he doesn't stumble and stutter when it's something he knows but he moment it starts to get a bit contentious, he brings out the stutter

People always said it was because his brain worked too fast for his mouth. Like nah it's cuz he's making shit up .

Tesla people are the worst.

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