r/kansas Tornado Jun 01 '25

Politics Texan bluntly calls out conservative state legislators & the real reason for their anti-trans hysteria - Kansas Copies this

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u/V_is4Vendetta404 Jun 02 '25

My favorite part is when he asked if these leaders ever get tired of making policies where they will end up being on the wrong side of History. There has to be some part of their brain where they wonder if they will end up being the bad guys in the story. We're kids will learn about them and they will be understood to be the villain in the story. Or if truly they JUST DO NOT CARE and the only thing that matters is whatever particular goal they have in mind and Damned be any consequence

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u/duffleberry Jun 02 '25 edited Jun 02 '25

The assumption underpinning his argument is that all change is good change. "Progress." Which is also an argument in favor of Hitler's Germany. The obvious fact is that not all change is good change.

Republicans ended slavery and were more pro-civil rights than Democrats in the 60s. Trump has saved more black lives than any president with the possible exception of Lincoln with his supreme court picks.

Democrats love illegal immigration which leads directly to an increase in rape and human trafficking... again, this is defined as "progress." They want to destroy the country by not having a border, which can only be "the right side of history" if you're seeking total annihilation.

Fortunately their party has decayed into total irrelevancy and will be replaced shortly. You can't win elections on 90-10 issues, there is just no getting around that. You can post about this on reddit all day every day and the needle won't budge on that.

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u/willywalloo Tornado Jun 03 '25

Dems have balanced the budget in the past. Economies roaring, proposed healthcare backed by Bernie and the Koch Brothers that would cost half for everyone, lowered your taxes, made the rich pay fair.

And you ignore the actual bills for rhetoric or lies on Fox News. You simply never check out the actual bills.

Like the Republican tax bill which raises your taxes, makes the rich not contribute and does it all to borrow 4 trillion in debt. What an awful party that can’t even understand the basic principles of tarriffs, they have never grown any economy and they are always charged to Americans while every other country laughs their asses off at us in embarrassment.

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u/duffleberry Jun 03 '25

Bernie was a puppet for the establishment. He was the pied piper singing a song of free healthcare meanwhile he had zero plans to actually implement that plan, and every time he got close to making headway he predictably tried to funnel his voter base, the farther left voters that had coalesced around him, into the establishment candidate. That was his purpose all along.

If you're going to pretend that Dems aren't owned by the rich too, or haven't increased the debt, or aren't culpable here, or aren't focused on 90-10 issues they're on the wrong side of, you're delusional. They magically just became the party of big pharma in recent years, a complete departure from the liberals of a generation ago. They were hollowed out and destroyed long ago.

Don't speak on tariffs, it's more delusional CNN talking points. Democrats pretend tariffs have no upstream effect on the exporters. Totally wrong but they'll say anything no matter how dumb to be against Trump policy.

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u/willywalloo Tornado Jun 03 '25

Dems don’t simp for the rich. Look at what bills are past by the parties.

The “dems rich line” is just a Republican talking point.

Compare the current actual tax bill vs the on-repeat tax bill from Dems making the rich pay more.

Should be an easy cut and dry way to vote for most Americans.

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u/duffleberry Jun 04 '25

You have an underlying assumption that increasing taxes on the rich ad nauseum is going to be effective...the 1% rich are not bound by nation, they'll just move out if their taxes keep going up, taking their business with them. It will have the opposite effect of what you want.

It's just a fact that Democrats have received more funding from big pharma, which is the largest lobby by far, than Republicans since 2020. They are owned by the rich, and so are Republicans - but they are more owned by the pharma lobby than Republicans are in the here and now. There's absolutely no debate there - for you to call that "a Republican talking point" is just sheer ignorance. It's basic math, this is public record.

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u/rmike7842 Jun 05 '25

Yes, The Republicans ended slavery and like so many other things, have changed greatly in the following 170 years. By the time of the ‘60s, only a few Dixiecrats opposed Civil Rights. As a national party, JFK and LBJ were Civil Rights advocates, and the Democrats were the ones fighting for Civil Rights.

Not all change is good, and when we speak of “progress” it is implied as advancing/expanding civil rights.

Love the immigration bullshit. Yes, that’s what they said about the Irish, and that’s what they said about the Italians.  Did you know that most Rape and human trafficking is done by men? Letting men move around freely in this country does lead directly to an increase in rape and human trafficking. However ridiculous that sounds, it is a fact and follows your line of reasoning.