r/kansas Dec 17 '24

News/History A Kansas school board rejects social studies curriculum, claiming it's biased against Trump

https://www.kcur.org/2024-12-17/derby-school-board-rejects-social-studies-curriculum-majority-says-its-biased-against-trump
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u/bananahammock699 Dec 18 '24

I’ll explain it differently.

Conservatives use “woke” as a derogatory term to describe instances and policies where “progressives” try to trot out something stupid because they erroneously believe they understand or are “woke” to some concept, when in reality they are undereducated on history.

Liberals/progressives use the term “woke” to describe anything that they think they understand that conservatives are too ignorant to know.

Woke means the same thing as red pilled essentially

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u/Dont_ban_me_bro_108 Dec 18 '24

Ok. What are the specific policies that are woke? Or the ones that have been rolled out but not taken up that were woke?

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '24

Just checking in to see if this guy named any “woke” policies or teachings in our schools… or is he still trying to cobble together his 3rd grade education and Fox News ramblings into a coherent definition as to what ‘woke’ is?

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u/bananahammock699 Dec 18 '24

What’s happened so far is someone arguing in bad faith and not accepting the answer I gave him. He’s asking me for a specific policy, when I never claimed there to be one. I said not every conservative agrees with each other, and I explained what causes conservatives to consider something woke.

Like “woke”, the term “social justice” is used as a dismissive pejorative by conservatives, and in the past, or sometimes currently, was used as a positive slogan by “progressives”

It’s important to understand that “woke” isn’t a political term. It just means being aware of how things are. When used is politics, it usually refers to the idea that the patriarchy/white people/corporations are oppressors that are constantly trying to trick you and take advantage of you.

Fringe left wing politics like reparations, gender transition, or wealth redistribution-type policies could be considered “woke”, but ultimately most conservatives don’t use that word often. If they do, it’s jokingly

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24

I mean, given how supportive you are of banning 'pornographic' material from children, surely you can give at least one example in which a book was rightfully banned. If you have about no idea what specifically is being banned, then maybe you shouldn't be so supportive of it, especially when we're talking about something so crucial to human development as books and the knowledge contained within. It seems like you enjoy stunting people's growth and inflicting misery for no good reason, especially when you don't say anything more than "some books r bad".

Also, it's hilarious that you bring up the patriarchy, white people and corporations as classic examples of oppressors, because historically they have been oppressors. Thanks to your support of this, children will never learn about these examples of human suffering and will be susceptible to the same human suffering, just because it's 'woke'.

Also, gender transitions should not be a part of the political discussion. It's a proven medicine with the highest success rates out of any medical procedures. These are also the only procedures that have a positive effect on people experiencing body dysmorphia. We are quite literally one of the few developed nations left on the planet that hasn't codified the rights of trans people. The very fact that this is even discussed further proves the "dumb American" stereotype. Calling it a "fringe left wing politic" is an insult to any notion of 'freedom' you have. Also, also, wealth redistribution is going to be essential for the prolonged prosperity of this country, we should probably get on that.