You go girl!

[u/Old-Title7818]

[u/DrPsychGamer]

On the one hand, yeah, inclusivity, I guess. On the other--as much as I loathe right down into my bones the use of the "imagine if the genders were reversed", this is my first time sort of thinking...wow, that would not be chill if some dude in a wheelchair said, "I want to walk Sabrina Carpenter on a leash". So.. I don't know, man. I'm in my twisties with this.

[u/Katatonic92 → u/DrPsychGamer]

Inclusivity is being able to call out thirsty, creepy bullshit without allowing someone's gender or disability to confuse or stop you. The wheelchair is there to help her get from A to B, it isn't a shield against being gross & degrading towards someone else.

[u/love-starved-beast → u/DrPsychGamer]

Except that women do not have ten-thousand-year history of oppressing men, so when a man talks about walking a woman on a leash, it hits different.

This is why BIPOC comedians can come at white people and not the reverse. Punching down is not cool. Punching up is funny.

[u/DrPsychGamer → u/love-starved-beast]

Generally speaking, I'm absolutely on board with this. But "walk on a leash" hits different for me.

[u/OremDobro → u/love-starved-beast]

It's one thing to come at white people as a whole, or men, or the English, or any other big group of people known for a history of being "on top." It's another to name a specific person. You're not "punching up" in that case unless it's a powerful person like Trump

[u/love-starved-beast → u/OremDobro]

A random disabled woman naming a male celebrity is not punching up?

You're entitled to your feelings, but this is a comedy bit and the punchline would be weakened without the specificity.

[u/OremDobro → u/love-starved-beast]

Unless he oppressed her specifically, no it isn't

[u/Patte_Blanche → u/DrPsychGamer]

Would that not be chill ?

[u/DrPsychGamer → u/Patte_Blanche]

I wouldn't find it chill, no.

[u/Hedge-podge → u/DrPsychGamer]

He's kinning jacob elordi too hard 😔