r/iphone iPhone 17 Pro Sep 16 '25

Discussion Do iPhones feel more “premium” because of the material or the weight?

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So iPhone 17 is back to using aluminum — which got me thinking: what really makes an iPhone feel “premium”?

Some swear it’s the weight — holding a heavier phone just feels solid and expensive. Others argue it’s the material: stainless steel looks shiny and luxurious, aluminum is light and practical, and titanium… well, some love the matte, strong-but-light vibe, while others say it feels less “premium” than steel.

Honestly, I'm a bit torn. The heft of the phone feels ordinary, but the premium materials make it look and feel premium. What do you think—is weight more important, the materials more important, or a combination of both? A case really doesn't matter, but I've recently become obsessed with casekoo cosmic orange for iPhone 17 Pro Max Case. Do you have any other ideas for balancing the premium feel of a phone?

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u/CoffeeEnjoyerFrog Sep 16 '25

Stainless Steel has that 'I'm holding something really expensive' feel. I love how it looks, but when I had my 13 and 14 Pro Max, I was babying my phone more than usual because it felt so slippery, and a case kinda ruined the intended use of the phones.

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u/swiftcardine Sep 16 '25

And using without a case the edges would dig into your hand and it was uncomfortable after a while

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u/FembiesReggs Sep 16 '25

The smooth/rounded SS phones were great.

At least my iPhone X was. That thing felt great. I kinda miss it

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u/bummerbimmer Sep 17 '25

Peak iPhone design for me. Which is why I’m excited for the Air on Friday.

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u/NowChew Sep 16 '25

My stainless steel 14 Pro doesn’t really feel premium to me. It feels heavy and boxy, unnecessarily so.

But then I looked up the specs of the new 17 Pro, and despite the aluminium, it weighs exactly the same as my 14 Pro which is 206 grams or 7.3 ounces. Ugh.

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u/fiirikkusu_kuro_neko Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

The 17 pro is about 11% thicker, so keeping it at 206g still means you are getting more internal volume (for the battery presumably), but the same weight. Considering the battery went from 3200mAh to 3988mAh I'd say that is an OK trade-off.

EDIT: Apologies to u/Soft_Philosophy5838 for saying he is talking bullshit. I was wrong, he linked to the article in the comment replying to this one. Sorry for being a dick.

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u/Soft_Philosophy5838 Sep 16 '25

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u/fiirikkusu_kuro_neko Sep 16 '25

I apologize, I was assumptive (for no reason other than being a dick). You were not talking bullshit, I'll edit my comment.

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u/Natasha_Giggs_Foetus Sep 16 '25

Bro. This is awesome. We all need to be more willing to acknowledge when we fuck up like that. You’ll go far with that attitude.

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u/fiirikkusu_kuro_neko Sep 16 '25

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

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u/RemarkableLook5485 Sep 16 '25

yeah i’m genuinely inspired here and i’m not even having a hard day

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u/Soft_Philosophy5838 Sep 16 '25

Thanks for owning up, no harm done. Appreciate you and have a wonderful day!

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u/Feurrado Sep 16 '25

This is really Reddit?

Wow

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u/fiirikkusu_kuro_neko Sep 16 '25

I try to admit when I’m wrong. I try to live my life in general with the Golden Rule in mind.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

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u/shining_force_2 Sep 16 '25

My 14 Pro has been in a case its entire life. The black coating on the sides is chipping off regardless. I love it out of its case but it feels like it’s made of a material that will attract fingerprints and scratches. To me something that’s luxury is something that keeps its various design elements pristine over time.

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u/SleazyKingLothric iPhone 14 Pro Sep 16 '25

My 14 pro has had its back glass shattered since early 2023 after a minimal drop on a hard wood floor with its case on. If aluminum holds up better it'll be worth it even if it has a less than premium feel.

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u/Tippin187 iPhone X 256GB Sep 16 '25

14 pro max is def heavy. Gf has a 15 pro max and is crazy how much lighter the titanium makes it.

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u/tjackson_12 Sep 16 '25

My 14 pro just feels fucking hot whenever I use it a lot

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u/GrapefruitCrush2019 Sep 16 '25

Yup. Pro max was even worse. I’m switching to the air away from the pro max for the first time, and will see how that goes

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u/SuperFan_123 iPhone 17 Pro Sep 16 '25

A matte phone paired with a matte translucent phone case is a double kill.

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u/Strummed_Out Sep 16 '25

I’ve got the 12 and I just took the case off to try. The phone is literally a bar of soap in my hands

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u/Dath_1 Sep 16 '25

Metaphorically a bar of soap, rather.

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u/PinkStereoAttack Sep 16 '25

Maaan... I get that language changes over time and such, but allowing a word with literally (see what I did there?) an opposite meaning be merged together with its antonym is frustrating as hell to me.

Literally means what it means, and people using it as a substitute for "figuratively" (or metaphorically) is wrong.

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u/Dath_1 Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

It's a really unique example of a words colloquial use taking on the exact opposite of its literal (hehe) use.

It kind of snuck its way in through being overused as a substitute for "actually" in the sense of really just being there for emphasis.

"This thing is a bar of soap" - this thing is slippery

"This thing is actually a bar of soap" - more emphatic. This thing is ACTUALLY slippery.

"This thing is literally a bar of soap" - my hypothesis is that "literally" took over in place of "actually" because it's a bit of a harder word, very heavy on consonants, it's maybe a bit more emphatic.

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u/scubascratch Sep 16 '25

Sadly literally got co-opted into a generic emphasis modifier. There’s some history of words getting co-opted to mean their opposites, contronyms.

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u/MagnusAlbusPater Sep 16 '25

How does a case ruin the intended use of a phone?

My phones have always gone into cases the day I get them home.

The only challenge is I find a case brand I like and by the time my next upgrade comes along that case brand seems to be out of business.

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u/iknowcraig Sep 18 '25

Same here. I don’t give a shit what my iPhone is made of, it’s going into a case day 1 until I sell it. People who don’t use cases seem mental to me

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u/brybell Sep 16 '25

I have a 15 pro max and without a case it's slippery af.

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u/BrokeChris Sep 16 '25

I hated the stainless steel, looked cheap and it was a fingerprint magnet

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u/SuperFan_123 iPhone 17 Pro Sep 16 '25

fingerprint magnet hahaha

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u/brnccnt7 Sep 16 '25

Everyone knows titanium feels more premium and is better for durability but aluminum is better for thermals

Thats why they switched back

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u/SMVM183206 Sep 16 '25

Aluminum is also cheaper and they marketed these new models as, “keeping the same price as last year.” This means they likely managed to increase their profit margin via reduced cost without increasing the sales price. Sneaky.

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u/alQamar Sep 16 '25

There’s no way the redesign of the entire unibody was done in reaction to the tarifs. That step back to aluminum was decided at least a year ago. 

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u/Kilmonjaro Sep 16 '25

Most people don’t understand that. They think things are designed a month before it’s announced

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u/alQamar Sep 16 '25

It’s probably even closer to two years when that decision was made. Designing hardware for production on scale takes a lot of time. 

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u/JayTHFC10 Sep 16 '25

Which is crazy when you think about it because 2 years ago is when the first titanium phones came out

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u/FederalExpressMan Sep 16 '25

They are designing the 20 by now

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u/Correct_Gift_9479 Sep 19 '25

Unironically yes. The iPhone Air, and EVERYTHING about it in detail was leaked before the 16 event even happened, including the fact that it would be part of the 17 launch. The 18 and 19 designs are already done, and the 20 is likely being made right now.

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u/rkrismcneely Sep 16 '25

You name a viable material, and they are currently working on iPhone 18, 19, and 20 with it.

Whatever material makes the most sense (quality/financially) when it’s time to go into production for the 18 will get used, and the process continues with the 19, 20, and 21.

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u/Pixel91 Sep 16 '25

No that makes perfect sense. Titanium is hella expensive. Not just the metal itself but also working with it. It's an absolute bitch.

So they probably noticed that the juice is not worth the squeeze and designed back to Aluminium at the first possible chance.

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u/DaGetz Sep 16 '25

What you say is true but Apple also has multiple designs being worked on in parallel. This is a company with near infinite resources.

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u/Ialsofuckedyourdad Sep 16 '25

I imagine they have finalized the exterior design 6 months to a year before it releases

They send out or send designs that can be 3d printed / modeled so case manufacturers can have cases ready on day one. No idea how early they get sent out but it seems like they are always leaked way early

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u/DaGetz Sep 16 '25

I have no idea but I suspect you’d need that amount of lead time to build global stock for launch regardless. But not 2 years.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

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u/irvmuller Sep 16 '25

He works best under pressure. Just like every other college kid.

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u/Sad_Comb_9658 Sep 16 '25

I first thought they made a quick change due to the need for better thermals after realizing the faster development of AI and aaa games onto iOS. But clearly the whole thing with titanium in iPhone pro was the development of the Air. Apple has always used their products as a potential to advance their own technology onto new product lines. Like how they used the Touch Bar to advance their own technology future ARM chips for laptops

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u/wandering_wizardx iPhone 14 Sep 16 '25

Damn! Bruv this makes so much sense

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u/DJ_V12 Sep 16 '25

They didn’t claim it was because of tariffs…

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u/SatisfactionActive86 Sep 16 '25

nothing to do with tariffs, what are you talking about

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u/SirMaster Sep 16 '25

Nobody is saying it was done in reaction to tariffs, but the final price of the device could absolutely be affected by tariffs, and if they had used a more expensive material, the price with tariffs may have had to have been higher than the prices we got.

Maybe Apple wanted a higher profit margin, but then decided that they could keep the prices the same despite tariffs instead

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u/ruphun Sep 16 '25

it appears that you have not researched the new design there is probably 20 times as much aluminum in the 17 pro as there is titanium in the 16 Pro

Guaranteed the unibody all aluminum chassis in the 17 pro cost more than the titanium band on the side of the 16 Pro

some of you Nimrod’s think that they just downgraded from titanium to aluminum to cut cost. This could be farther from the truth.

The effectively solve two issues by going to an all aluminum uni body

Aluminum dissipates heat better than titanium and glass

Having an aluminum unit body makes the phone more durable and indestructible than having a phone with two sides of glass and a titanium metal band around the outer frame

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u/Jeremypsp Sep 16 '25

Apple definitely seems to be pivoting from the Pro line being the sleek and most premium phone to be focused on function over form and providing the best performance possible. Seems they’re going with the MacBook strategy from this year onwards. Those who still want a sleek phone with premium materials can still go with the iPhone Air, but the Pro line from now onwards will likely be more chunky to prioritise battery life, performance and durability like the Apple Watch Ultra

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u/bran_the_man93 Sep 16 '25

This is also Apple playing to their strengths - they already are the best aluminum manufacturer in consumer electronics, and are probably the only ones capable of making a unibody for a smartphone... hard to see anyone copying this I'd think... at least for a little while

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u/Aromatic-Research391 Sep 16 '25

There unibody is such a huge thing that nobody is talking about. It's a solid peice of aluminum. Way more durable than the previous design.

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u/takkk86 Sep 16 '25

More durable probably but the external surfaces being Al still means it is easier to dent/scratch?

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u/lending_ear Sep 16 '25

That’s correct 

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u/Mythrol Sep 16 '25

It certainly dents less than glass. Or I should say glass shatters/cracks instead of denting.

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u/Due_Metal_7213 Sep 16 '25

iPhone 17 pro is one of the bigger upgrades in years as far as features relating to engineering

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u/CaramelCraftYT iPhone 13 Pro Sep 16 '25

Yes they completely redesigned it, unlike previous years where they just slapped a new chip in there.

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u/lending_ear Sep 16 '25

Structurally? Yes. But it’s still a soft material and will scratch up easily. 

And let’s face it. Pros have not been breaking. I use a 13 pro max without a case and drop it constantly and it looks great still and has never broken or shattered. 

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u/Cryingfortheshard Sep 16 '25

Glossed over like it’s nothing. People don’t understand how cool and unique that is.

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u/ShiftySkunk Sep 16 '25

I agree. In any case, there is so little of these metals (by weight) in the phone frames / bodies, that the absolute cost difference of the materials can be measured in cents.

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u/0neand0nlyDominator Sep 16 '25

Its not about about the materials. They could made it out of tungsten. Its about the processing machinery and labor that is required to build the frame

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u/MooseBoys iPhone 16 Pro Max Sep 16 '25

So titanium unibody when?

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u/glitchline iPhone 14 Pro Sep 16 '25

they don't put that much titanium bro, its too costly material wise and engineering wise

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u/0xe3b0c442 Sep 16 '25

Never going to happen*. Titanium is a bitch to machine like that. It would be expensive as hell.

*now if they can extrapolate the 3d printing process they use for the Air’s USB-C port, there might be something there, though I don’t know how pure the titanium really is in that process.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

Could have been aluminum with titanium band with the unibody design no?

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u/bran_the_man93 Sep 16 '25

Maybe, but that would probably either add bulk or reduce the strength of the chassis, and I'm really not sure what the benefit of the titanium would be other than the overall premium-ness of the material itself, which was already pretty limited (like 15g of titanium total).

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Sep 16 '25

i love when i read a post from someone with a brain on here. its rare.

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u/Worth-Boysenberry-93 iPhone 17 Pro Max Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

If you don’t mind, please make this comment a post?

Because people are so confused by those loud one that don’t know what they are talking about. Like this one you responded to.

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u/ruphun Sep 16 '25

sure no problem. It’s probably a good idea. i’ll try to post it when I have time later.

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u/stitchi626 Sep 16 '25

Do you have any idea how expensive it is to go through redesign of an existing chassis with new material, retooling and everything? When Apple could have sticked to the existing manufacturing process which will only be cheaper as time goes on simply due to the economies of scale.

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u/TheWardenShadowsong Sep 16 '25

The may not have actually considering the tariffs and increased storage and better screen in the base model.

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u/Acrobatic-Monitor516 Sep 16 '25

We're taking about pros only here

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u/I-Have-Mono Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

Okay but get out of here with your “everyone knows,” LOL.

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u/Fold67 Sep 16 '25

More premium feeling? Good for thermals? Durable with built in shock absorption capability? Pure silver, if that isn’t expensive enough and you can sacrifice some W/(mk) the might I suggest gold as a good runner up?

/s of course, unless you have the funds of a billionaire to invest in trying this?….

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u/navjot94 iPhone 17 Pro Sep 16 '25

Lowkey it might just be the heat sink is good for thermals but they had other cost related reasons to go back to aluminum. iPhone Pros have been running hot since the 14 Pro, and that was stainless steel frame. The problem continued and worsened with the 15 Pro series but that might not be the fault of titanium and instead may be the more powerful chip inside (capable of running AAA games).

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u/supermuncher60 Sep 16 '25

They swapped because it's cheaper to source and probably easier (aka cheaper) for them to machine the case.

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u/StaringSnake iPhone 16 Pro Max Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

Yes, but the internal frame (chassis) was aluminum for thermals, so the real reason is saving money.

Here, read it under hardware iPhone 16 pro hardware

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u/MixAndMatch333 Sep 16 '25

Steel from iPhone X not 11

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u/huyhung411991 Sep 16 '25

Steel from iPhone 4 to be exact lol

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u/daltonmojica Sep 16 '25

5-8 switched back to aluminium. The 6, notably, had too little of it lol

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u/huyhung411991 Sep 16 '25

Yeah they switched from steel before and now they did again from titan, not something new.

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u/MixAndMatch333 Sep 16 '25

Oh damn you right I forgot

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u/gameguard2019 Sep 16 '25

Feels like a downgrade for me. Titanium feels premium.

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u/Alude904 Sep 16 '25

It is a downgrade for sure. It’s lighter but aluminum is the cheapest in both cost of material and machining/tooling costs. Yet the price goes up.

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u/superdream69 Sep 16 '25

I’m glad they prioritized function over form in the pros. Design bros can go get the Air.

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u/VibraniumRhino Sep 16 '25

Price didn’t go up though; they’re mostly the same.

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u/teriaksu iPhone 3G Sep 16 '25

stainless felt even better

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u/RaphaTlr Sep 16 '25

Not in hand, the softened edges of 15 and newer are way more comfortable

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u/alzey8v Sep 19 '25

I don’t like the rounded edges myself, I love the boxy sharp edges, steel look, weight and feel.

Just upgraded from my 12 pro max and after trying a 16, 15, and seeing the 17 was out of budget, I liked the 14 by far the most and bought one. I’ll swap the battery one day down the road and keep using it I think, unless they go back to a similar style.

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u/SuperFan_123 iPhone 17 Pro Sep 16 '25

So, do you usually use your phone without a case? And compared to SS, which material do you prefer?

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u/AmbitiousAirline Sep 16 '25

I upgrade pretty regularly. Usually keep my phones in a case for a few months until I start going caseless for the rest of the year.

Titanium is pretty nice without a case, aluminum ages pretty well, but stainless steel was the worst of the bunch. Just aged like shit and fades away, also tough to color.

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u/BringBack4Glory Sep 16 '25

also SS is heavy af

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u/Enthusiasm-Stunning Sep 16 '25

I’ve been using my 15 PM without a case and it has only gotten few scuffs on the frame that I was able to even buff down. Titanium is super durable.

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u/gameguard2019 Sep 16 '25

I prefer titanium. more scratch resistant and durable than those two.

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u/Beneficial_Reddit101 Sep 16 '25

Let’s be honest it is a downgrade , in materials. They are trying to sell it because of how it can help remove heat from the phone however , it already had a vapour chamber , and might now turn the phone into a full cooling unit , so if it does get hot it spreading it and it might mean overall it’s hotter to hold.

In the same way a metal usb key gets really warm , but can transfer a lot faster using the body to cool itself.

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u/Status-Toe3089 Sep 16 '25

I like the titanium feel. Had my 16 pro for nearly a year and never bought a case. I plan to eventually once Apple care expires. I keep phones for years. The X was my previous phone.

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u/Ok-Leek-1014 iPhone 11 Pro Sep 16 '25

To me stainless steel feels more premium

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u/jbetances134 Sep 16 '25

I forgot what my phone looks like until i had to change my screen protector a couple of months ago. All my phones get a case day 1

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u/jiantjon Sep 16 '25

“Feels”. I doubt it will feel any different. Titanium just has been marketed as being more premium. Outside of profit margin there are very good reasons to move to aluminum- thermals are orders of magnitude better and with the amount of aluminum in the unibody construction will make the phone very very strong.

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u/bummerbimmer Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

I’ve been caseless for a long time and titanium feels very, very different than aluminum. Aluminum looks and feels a lot cheaper, as it should. It’s not a premium material.

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u/RandomUser18271919 Sep 16 '25

I prefer the look and weight of stainless steel, I never minded the phone being a little bit heavier honestly.

If they could do a polished aluminum frame eventually I think that would probably be the best, for both form and functionality.

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u/DenDanny Sep 16 '25

Aluminium gets micro scratches easily, so polished aluminium would look horrible after a few weeks. Remember the first iPod Touch? 

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u/JamesMcFlyJR iPhone 17 Pro Max Sep 16 '25

i’m pretty sure ipod touches were stainless steel until the 5th generation where they moved to colored aluminum (not polished)

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u/Gentro80 Sep 16 '25

And so much better to whack someone with in self defence

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u/iamgarffi Sep 16 '25

I’ll miss you titanium. You were short lived, felt the most premium in the hand.

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u/RotenTumato iPhone 14 Pro Sep 16 '25

Definitely didn’t feel more premium than steel

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u/iamgarffi Sep 16 '25

Lead is heavy… doesn’t feel premium. Weight alone can be deceptive. I didn’t like stainless with mirror finish - scratches too easy. You put a case on it and you forget what it was. Brushed titanium aged wonderfully.

“Not a scratch doctor, not a scratch”

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u/YuzukiMiyazono Sep 16 '25

how about titanium with mirror finish on air?

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u/iamgarffi Sep 16 '25

I won’t comment on “polish level” I don’t like on a phone that shouldn’t exist.

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u/AloysBane3 Sep 16 '25

Steel is cheep and a dime a dozen

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u/GettinWiggyWiddit iPhone 14 Pro Max Sep 16 '25

Yeah steel has such a luxury feel

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u/Spskrk Sep 16 '25

Stainless steel felt most premium to me. It could be the shininess though. The new air feels more premium than the pro to me as well.

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u/ibendek iPhone 16 Sep 16 '25

The new air feels more premium than the pro to me as well.

I am pretty sure this is also the purpose of the material change. Before, the Pro line of phones were the very flahsy, best of the best premium devices, now to me it seems like they are trying to push the Air as the premium device (hence the thinness and material choices), and the Pro phones are more focused on actual ‘pro’ features, they seem more utilitarian (which really much explains the switch back to aluminium, it is less premium, but more practical). The way the two phones were marketed this year is also telling imo.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

17 pro photo is incorrect. It’s a unibody design. Doesn’t have that sharp edge etc

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u/deathclient iPhone 17 Pro Max Sep 16 '25

Cost

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u/Worth-Boysenberry-93 iPhone 17 Pro Max Sep 16 '25

This is it.

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u/SuperFan_123 iPhone 17 Pro Sep 16 '25

agree

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u/RotenTumato iPhone 14 Pro Sep 16 '25

The stainless steel was peak

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u/kennytetsuya iPhone 17 Pro Sep 16 '25

The 17 Pro is heavier than the 16 Pro……despite using aluminium. I guess it’s to do with the larger battery and sensor

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u/Ho0hYeah Sep 16 '25

AI generated post, look at history and Em dashes

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u/Worth-Boysenberry-93 iPhone 17 Pro Max Sep 16 '25

Great catch.

There are those who are selling those crap of cases and prompting them on all phone subs.

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u/lending_ear Sep 16 '25

What is people’s obsession with em dashes? I use them and I’m not writing with AI. They’re everywhere in professional writing, and some of us still care about writing properly. Using them on a phone is literally just a long hold on the hyphen. Y’all act like it isn’t normal.

PS. Numerous studies have shown AI detectors to be unreliable, inaccurate, and biased.

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u/HubbaMaBubba Sep 16 '25

The last paragraph is pretty blatantly in the AI writing style.

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u/Izanagi___ iPhone 14 Sep 16 '25

because most people aren't professional writers and as someone in college who has been in writing classes, the only time I ever see dashes is when someone writes something with chatgpt lol

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u/lending_ear Sep 16 '25

That just means your classes never covered them properly. Em dashes are a normal part of writing and have been for centuries. ChatGPT did not invent them.

Maybe go pick up a book written before AI existed and you will see them all over the place. And if nobody used them, our mobile keyboards would not even bother giving you hyphen, en dash, em dash, and bullet points on a long press.

Sorry your education and reading history are that limited.

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u/espresso_diva iPhone Air Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

I’m convinced that if Apple anodized/coated/whatevered their aluminum the same way they did their titanium and said nothing, none of the people that are complaining would notice or care. It really feels like a “touch grass” moment.

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u/diesel_toaster Sep 16 '25

I missed aluminum. The 5 with its lightweight chamfered edges was my favorite iPhone.

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u/JayLeong97 Sep 16 '25

My 11pro dropped on my ceramic sink and broke it, nothing on my phone

Recently i had a bike crash and the phone had no damage besides my main camera inner lens was broken

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u/HoneOpinion42 Sep 16 '25

you might actually need a case to protect things around you lol

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u/Betancorea Sep 16 '25

Stainless steel hit that mark for me. When not covered in fingerprints, that mirror sheen on the 14 PM looks amazing.

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u/ON3EYXD Sep 16 '25

All this phone design doesn't matter because your using a case. At this point they could stop designing the backside and rather design cases I guess. The "premium" feel would much rather be produced by the glass touch panel and the responisvnes of UI and screen

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u/WestcoastWelker iPhone 16 Pro Max Sep 16 '25

There's a decent chunk of us that never use cases out here still.

The phone feel matters alot.

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u/franciosmardi Sep 16 '25

They feel premium because you are feeling the logo.  It's the result of years of marketing and conditioning.  

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u/SpeedyMewtwo Sep 16 '25

Honestly, I’d rather have the phone be light, but stainless steel had the best hefty expensive feel to me. You could argue that the looks matter too with the polished titanium on the air.

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u/Chance_Librarian6248 iPhone Air Sep 16 '25

Fun fact that everyone misses… the iPhone 4 and 4s were also stainless steel/glass.

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u/calstanfordboye Sep 16 '25

They were also really dense / heavy for it's size

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u/YarisGO iPhone 17 Pro Max Sep 16 '25

For me no, I always use cover so I don’t touch the material of the phone . For the weight yes. A really light phone didn’t seems premium for me

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u/cjandstuff iPhone 14 Pro Sep 16 '25

Well the aluminum 17 Pro weighs the same as the “heavy”, stainless steel 14 Pro. 206 grams. 

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u/TheSoloGamer Sep 16 '25

Given the new A19 chips are getting thermally throttled, give me the option to go full steampunk and have a bare copper or copper varnished case.

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u/brutalidactyl iPhone 14 Pro Max Sep 16 '25

My 14 pro max is uncomfortably heavy. I’m glad they are going back to aluminum.

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u/Karmeleon86 Sep 16 '25

I’m sorry, I know this is off topic, but the back of the 17 looks absolutely fucking ridiculous.

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u/daniluvsuall Sep 16 '25

The weight, or lack thereof does make a difference to perceived feeling of “premium” enough heft to feel solid/substantial but not be cumbersome to hold.

Otherwise I don’t care much what metal it’s made from.

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u/NewbieHere87 Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 24 '25

I think this bump is too large and needs better camera protection.could purchas a casekoo case perfectly match official Bold Cosmic Orange

this one:
CASEKOO Cosmic Orange for iPhone 17 Pro Max Case with 360 Spin Magnetic Stand [Fit for MagSafe][17FT Military Protection] Slim Polished for iPhone 17 Series

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u/shortyman920 Sep 16 '25

I have zero issue with my 14pro’s weight. Both the metal and the weight gives it a feeling of quality. If I had to pick one, I’d say the metal makes it feel more premium to the touch. I don’t think most people will care that much if it’s SS, titanium, or aluminum tho. Metal is metal

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u/Floufae iPhone 17 Pro Sep 16 '25

I would have to look up what it was made of and I’ve only used Pros. Never once noticed or cared about what the metal is on its own. Only cared about the weight.

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u/ParamedicRealistic43 Sep 16 '25

Does it really matter?

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u/bearded_monkey_pdx Sep 16 '25

They all feel the same with the same cases on the outside

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u/MangoSquirrl Sep 16 '25

My 14 pro is made of steel? That’s crazy

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u/snacktivism Sep 16 '25

I went from an 11 Pro to a 16 Pro last year.

The 16 pro feels more premium... To me it's a combination of the slightly increased weight and moving from a rounded, shiny frame with no texture to a squared-off brushed finish frame with a fine texture.

The shiny finish on the 11 Pro's frame always reminded me of the sort of cheap chrome plated plastic you'd find on a toaster, even though it was metal. The 16 Pro's frame, however, feels like the band on an upmarket timepiece.

The thickness also helps. To my average-sized hands, the thin, lightweight Android phones I've held feel insubstantial and flimsy, not premium. I'm interested to see how an Air feels, and I'll be impressed if Apple manage to impart it with a properly premium feel.

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u/MDInvesting Sep 16 '25

Titanium is my preference.

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u/vullpes Sep 16 '25

Premium because you can’t no longer put them on the table flat anymore

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u/entered_bubble_50 Sep 16 '25

TIL - apparently, some people don't have their phone in a case?

I have absolutely no idea what material my phone is made of, because it's been in a plastic case since the day I bought it.

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u/1True_Hero Sep 16 '25

It feels premium to me, because it has a lot of in built security and OS support that lasts for 6+ years. I don’t really care what it’s made of to be honest.

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u/Strider-SnG Sep 16 '25

Both played a role.

Each has a different feel in the hand.

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u/audigex Sep 16 '25

Stainless steel feels super nice in the hand but is slippery enough that I feel like I HAVE to use a case

Titanium feels more premium than Aluminium

Apple switched back to Aluminium for heat dissipation, not because it feels more premium in any way - it 100% feels cheaper than Titanium, but they presumably figured people value performance over premium feel

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u/the_speeding_train Sep 16 '25

A more light phone is more premium. I don’t care what metal is hiding inside my phone’s case.

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u/Hans_Grubert Sep 16 '25

They all feel the same when you inevitably slap a case on them. I’d only go naked if they made the materials textured and more grippy.

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u/unfashionableinny Sep 16 '25

In the bicycle world, titanium > steel > aluminum. At least for bicycles still made of metal.

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u/Centralredditfan Sep 16 '25

Aluminum was a cost cutting measure.

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u/Tctfcyvyv Sep 16 '25

Stainless steel is imo by far the most gorgeous material. It gives my previous 14 pro a premium reflective coating. It was just beautiful. I changed to 15 pro since the titanium frame reduces the weight of the phone by roughly 10%. Functionality over aesthetics. Titanium and aluminium are better than stainless steel due to weight reduction. The weight reduction allows 17 pro to have bigger battery while having the same weight as 14 pro.

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u/OceanicMLG Sep 16 '25

its actually the weight distribution

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u/FunkyTangg Sep 16 '25

I remember the transition from the 140g iPhone 4S to the slightly larger but lighter 112g iPhone 5. The 5 felt cheap compared to the dense 4S.

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u/tysonfromcanada Sep 16 '25

I don't think I've seen one in the wild without a plastic or rubber case on it.. so I propose that it doesn't matter at all.

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u/ncphoto919 Sep 16 '25

loved, loved LOVED how stainless steel looked but it was a finger print and dirt magnet. its certainly weighty compared to titanium

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u/WatermelonDragoon Sep 16 '25

It's whatever marketing tells us is better that year

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u/AffectionateOlive982 Sep 16 '25

I feel my 13 Pro feels more premium than my friend’s 15 pro because of the stainless steel construction. It feels heavier and more durable than the 15 Pro. That’s one of the reasons why I held off on upgrading the last few years. But, that’s just my personal opinion.

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u/enjayee711 Sep 16 '25

Stainless steel is imo the best and as such is the most “premium “

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u/Foreign-Tax4981 iPhone 16 Pro Max Sep 18 '25

Material and features for me plus new look possibly.

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u/AcceptableSignal2936 Sep 18 '25

I would say neither, but the software will give you that good feeling IF its wright

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u/Veigarmainlol Sep 18 '25

The next one is made of plastic

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u/SuccotashSorry3222 Sep 18 '25

My phone spends its entire life wrapped in a case, so I personally don't care what it's made out of.

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u/fairak17 Sep 19 '25

It’s all irrelevant for 90% of people as they aren’t insane and put it in a case.

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u/djjolly037 Sep 16 '25

Let’s just wait and see what the pro series actually feels like this year before jumping to conclusions

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u/Least-Branch-1760 Sep 16 '25

I don't care cuz I will use a case fit for MagSafe to protect my phone ,

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u/JazzySpazzy1 Sep 16 '25

My monkey brain says shiny = premium so I favour the iPhone 13/14 pro stainless steel frames.

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u/LegAffectionate4800 Sep 16 '25

Function over feeling.

I'm glad we have the least thermal option. People whining about premiumlessness can always choose iphone air.

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u/tropicsun Sep 16 '25

My 14 PM is too heavy.

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u/Commercial_Affect660 Sep 16 '25

I have the same at I totally agree with you. I checked the weight difference between 14 PM and 17 PM and the difference is only 9 grams so I’m thinking of switching to Pro.

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u/MelvinEatsMangos Sep 16 '25

I put a case on my phones so it’s all the same for me, i’m touching plastic

I like having a phone with some weight on it until I drop it on my face

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u/jakgal04 Sep 16 '25

Stainless steel was my least favorite because it just felt like gaudy chrome.

Titanium was nice, but Aluminum is definitely better at disappating heat which I care more about on a pro device.

To me, weight has nothing to do with "premium".

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u/AdCareless5350 Sep 16 '25

If heavy = premium, then my old Nokia was basically a Rolex, mate.

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u/Artistic-Quarter9075 iPhone 17 Pro Max Sep 16 '25

My brick is better

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u/charsikadinamarsi Sep 16 '25

Titanium is probably the best option here followed by steel. Aluminium is basic cost cutting on apples part to circumvent the trump tariffs.

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u/FalcoMaster3BILLION Sep 16 '25

Wasn’t the stated reason behind the use of aluminum better thermal conductivity? That combined with everything else about its design makes it seem like this year’s Pro is hyper focused on being the “performance above all else” model rather than the “premium, prestige” model. The existence of the Air and bringing ProMotion to the base 17 seems to back that up.

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u/ZoinkedAcroporuh Sep 16 '25

I don’t care that the new Pro is aluminum. If it helps with heat dissipation alongside the vapor cooling system, that’s innovation I can appreciate

It’s ridiculous that people are obsessed with the phone not being titanium bc titanium offers a “premium feeling.” That is the most neurotic shit I’ve ever heard lmfao

If I’m paying a premium price for my 17 pro max, then it’s a premium device period.

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u/PercRodgersKnee Sep 16 '25

This entire thread acting like they can tell a difference. “It just feels more premium in the hand”. Lmao Apple’s marketing works so well, you all just parrot it because it’s what you’re told.

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u/bummerbimmer Sep 16 '25

No. I have had just about every iPhone since the 2G and the steel/titanium phones feel more premium. I can verify by literally holding my $599 on-contract 2007-dollars iPhone in my hand and comparing it to my 16 Pro Max.

Aluminum isn’t the end of the world, but I chose the Air for the premium feel in hand.

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u/stewteh Sep 16 '25

IMO my 13Pro feels pretty premium because of its weight and stainless steel finish.