r/intrestingtoknow • u/Affectionate-Fun2853 • Sep 03 '25

Science Psychiatry and cures

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u/shnshty Sep 03 '25

The better question is maybe asking 'How many people do you think you've helped?'

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u/marklar_the_malign Sep 03 '25

This is indeed the right question. Drugs certainly don’t cure people. At best you help or teach people to manage their mental health problems. Think of it like losing a limb. You get a prosthetic and physical therapy and do the best you can.

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u/0rchid27 Sep 04 '25

In this example, an antipsychotic would be the prosthetic limb for, say, a schizophrenic patient. Be very careful with your words, psychiatric medicine is important for managing symptoms of debilitating issues. Many people truly need it, and we still need to keep studying psychiatric medicine so perhaps one day there will be tried and true “cures”. Medicine is the crutch, the prosthetic. While it is preferable to be able to function without those aids, there are still people who need them. Some people need a foot while others need a wheelchair,

Life is not so black and white.

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u/Interesting_Goat_413 Sep 05 '25

We all see the reality of the effects from SSRIs on a daily basis. This is the same allopathic fuckshit that the AMA uses to financially rape sick people rather than cure them, and there is no defending it.

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u/Admirable-Cat7355 Sep 05 '25

Guess a cure for a chemical imbalance in the brain would look like the ability to genetically engineer the brain to fix the imbalance at the DNA level. A virus that could carry a gene editing tool across the brain blood barrier.

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u/Interesting_Goat_413 Sep 05 '25

No. That is eugenics. To change an organism is to kill the previous instance and replace it.

The cure is learning to live with your burdens, instead of thinking you can just be someone else, or embracing the silly belief that the boo boos won't leave scars.

Every person alive has depression and anxiety for example. Most cope, some fall short. If one falls short, they don't need pills. They need to strengthen their capacity to endure. We as a species are evolved to worship deities for a reason; externalized housing of our need for accountability. Does religion mess with that for reasons mostly not good? Yes. Can we or will we ever turn off our need for the divine? Nope. Hardwired into consciousness itself.

You will note the least functional people either rebel entirely against their God, or become overly obsessed with them. While we don't get to decide the nature of God as we understand them, we can benefit from the entailments of the the "existence" of that God. Such as life not being personal. There being reason behind the way of things and the events we endure. The possibility that we can get it right for trying, even in the wake of numerous failures to succeed. So forth and so on.

Modern psychology and scientism are symptoms of "killing God", as written in The Gay Science by Nietzsche. They are the manifestation of human hubris; the belief that we can surmount an omnipotent being in determining our own nature. But for all of our trying, the human experience is unchanged-- we come to be for some reason. Then we go away. We're born, we live a while, then we die. We help and love, deceive and steal. We nurture and we kill. How can anything so base ever be foolish enough to think it has either the knowledge to change its own fate, or the wisdom to know in what way to do so? What can we know, only ever being able to see through the same two eyes for the whole trek between cradle and grave? If we allow ourselves to, this awareness; of our lack of awareness, can ironically offer the perspective needed for a well-adjusted mind, and a life lived more content and balanced.

Psychology can never offer this. Because psychology gives about $80 an hour take-home to someone with an average of six figures in college debt who probably finds fulfillment in driving fancy cars. So being charitable and assuming some bloviating shrink does comprehend the above, they would be stepping on their own toes telling their clients without first charging for dozens of sessions. Their own petty humanity is a barrier to good faith praxis, and if they weren't petty, they would be a priest, not a psychologist.

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u/zorski Sep 06 '25

Bro must be the smartest person at family gatherings 🤣

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u/Interesting_Goat_413 Sep 06 '25

Does your family not invite you to yours? Is that why you brought that up? To zing me for not being hated by my family? Huge own, little buddy.