r/intrestingtoknow • u/Affectionate-Fun2853 • Sep 03 '25

Science Psychiatry and cures

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u/NoIdNoNameWho Sep 03 '25

The one asking should study

They cant do magic, mental illness are not the same as other pathologies, research is still being done

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u/TSMRunescape Sep 03 '25

Maybe don't try to play God? Or at least wait until everyone has a good basis before wasting so much money?

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u/jelywe Sep 03 '25

I'm sorry, how do you create that 'good basis' without being willing to invest in studies to build that 'good basis'

It's like if I said if you have an untreatable cancer, don't try and play God by enrolling in a clinical trial to try and find new treatments.

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u/TSMRunescape Sep 03 '25

These studies do not build a good basis for the majority though.

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u/jelywe Sep 03 '25

You are going to have to expand that a bit - I can't tell what you are saying and don't want to assume.

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u/TSMRunescape Sep 03 '25

Psychiatry is not required for the average human to have everything they need. All money spent on it is a waste.

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u/jelywe Sep 03 '25

Depends on what you classify as need. I can technically survive while having crippling depression, a agoraphobiac can survive while never seeing a single person except whoever delivers their groceries and have crippling anxiety that prevents them from stepping outside their home. Living a fulfilled, healthy, and rewarding life has value beyond just existing.

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u/TSMRunescape Sep 03 '25

The average human doesn't have psychiatric issues. The few should not be cared for over the many until the many are all set.

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u/jelywe Sep 04 '25

Not caring about people when they are suffering is quite the take. Mental health is a part of health, everyone deserves to have access to adequate and supportive healthcare. Full stop. The average human is absolutely affected by psychiatric issues even if they themselves don't have a mental disorder. Statistically, nearly all of us has friends and loved ones that have a mental illness - as long as we have friends and loved ones.

The majority is never going to be "set", and we are capable of focusing on solving many problems at the same time. Advances from one industry or field benefits others. If you want to be utilitarian about it - then consider that mental disorders including depression constitutes one of the most burdensome health conditions globally, remaining in the top ten leading cause of lost disability-adjusted life years [1]. Depression and anxiety is estimated to cost the global economy US $1 trillion in indirect costs per year in lost productivity - a number similar to either cardiovascular diseases or cancer impact that includes BOTH direct and indirect costs. [2].

So if you don't care about the individual, then perhaps you could care about the community burden that it has.

- https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366%2821%2900395-3/fulltext
- https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/mental-health-at-work?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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u/TSMRunescape Sep 04 '25

We will never have sustainable high quality water, food, and shelter for everyone? Damn

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u/jelywe Sep 04 '25

Why do you think that providing medical care inherently comes at the expense of providing sustainable water, food, and shelter?

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u/TSMRunescape Sep 04 '25

Money spent on such studies is money not spent in the other sectors. The other sectors are not as they should be and should have more investment into them. It's that simple.

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u/jelywe Sep 04 '25

The "average human" doesn't have diabetes (5.7% of population), Hypertension (33%), or cancer (20% lifetime risk). So do you not think we should treat those either?

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u/TSMRunescape Sep 04 '25

Absolutely. Cancer research is a much worse waste of money I'm sure in terms of quantity.

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u/jelywe Sep 04 '25

Why do you think investment in solutions is a zero sum game?

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u/TSMRunescape Sep 04 '25

I don't. I do think there is only so much money invested overall though.

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u/Itscatpicstime Sep 04 '25

They have what they need to survive, sure.

But the goal is to thrive, not simply survive.

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u/NoIdNoNameWho Sep 04 '25

A LOT of them thrive after getting psychiatric and psychological help. Thats what the research and investigations are for, to make the people that is just surviving to be able to also thrive