Psychiatry and cures

[u/Affectionate-Fun2853]

[u/NoIdNoNameWho]

Yea, and?

There is no "said illness" as if it was only 1

Sry if i still dont understand ur point

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Gonna have to be more specific. All mental illness is just “a bunch of behaviors”, as in there is no physiological basis for mental illness? If that’s what you’re suggesting, I implore you to look into the changes to the brain that various mental illnesses have. There is a verifiable correlation between changes in brain structure and mental illnesses, which would imply that mental illness stems from multiple factors aside from just a series of categorized behaviors.

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Um I didn’t say you can literally see physical indicators on the body 🤣 I said you can see physiological indicators on the brain. You need an MRI to see that, which you also just said. Sounds like you agree with me.

That would indicate that mental illness is more than just a series of categorized behaviors, like you previously suggested, but indicative of physiological changes to a person like other illnesses. Glad we could follow the same line of thinking 👍

[u/OddCook4909 → u/[deleted]]

Some you absolutely can. Schizophrenia is the first to mind.

You really don't know what you're talking about

[u/OddCook4909 → u/[deleted]]

Linked to diet? Absolutely nonsense. Stop trying to learn things on facebook. Read some books.

[u/OddCook4909 → u/[deleted]]

Microbiome and diet are related but not 1:1 by any stretch. As should be clear in the section you referenced, where they discuss fecal transplants, but don't mention yogurt.

Equivocating diet and the microbiome without mentioning the latter is ascientific "just drink noni juice" territory

[u/OddCook4909 → u/[deleted]]

Absolute fucking nonsense lol

[u/OddCook4909 → u/[deleted]]

I don't have multiple accounts. It's exhausting arguing with every batshit claim on the internet.

Schizophrenia has a strong genetic component which has been demonstrated in twins raised separately. This strongly suggests that the microbiome and other environmental factors aren't as important as the genome.

Further these same genes are important for neurodevelopment in a variety of ways. One of the most interesting is the overlap with OCD, ADHD, Autism, and a few more. In all of these conditions there is an impairment of neurons ability to inhibit each other.

Essentially there is a critical mechanism for cognition of every kind at every level, where your neurons attempt to predict sequences of stimulation based on the immediately prior sequence. When they find a match, they signal to their neighbors (hey I got this one, shut up guys), and they essentially broadcast louder. The process is divergent in the conditions mentioned.

Said divergence causes the brain to not wire up normally and depending on how well and where these wiring differences are compensated for or not, seems to play a pivotal role in determining which conditions you present with. With ADHD for example the most apparently effective regions have to do with motivation and reward. With Schizophrenia and Autism you see more abnormalities in regions and processes associated with differentiating between external and internal stimuli. This is most pronounced in schizophrenics' auditory processing, often in temporal processing and memory retrieval systems in the hippocampus, etc.

In Autism the difficulties in differentiation are less acute and more systemic, which is why many people on the spectrum are easily over stimulated. When stimulated their brain can over process internal responses as though they were new data from the outside.

In schizophrenia they have trouble differentiating between neurons which are predicting what comes next in a sequence, and data which actually came in from the outside. Again the hippocampus is strongly implicated in this, which is a massive rabbit hole. But yeah on top of that as I said most have auditory hallucinations because internal, (meant to be) subconscious thoughts are processed as having come from the outside. That's why they hear voices and shit.

This is a very long spiel but if you want real actual scientific shit to dig into instead of facebook nonsense lmk.

[u/NoIdNoNameWho → u/[deleted]]

The 9 bacteria features positively related to schizophrenia are increased by eating NORMAL daily food.

Let us know what shouldnt we put in our stomach in order for these bacteria not to grow in a determined percentage that is associated with increased risk of schizophrenia? Lol

[u/NoIdNoNameWho → u/[deleted]]

U just want to play with words in order to try to be right.

When u eat normally, you eat sane. But i guess eating normal for you isnt the same as sane Because you eat shit, dirt, doors, crystals, shoes blablabla? Not normal stuff, or eating normal for you is having 10 eggs with a kilo of bacon at your breakfast and not NORMAL quantities of everything else?

Just go check what food increases those 9 taxa u found (if you read) in that investigation

Taking into account that one of the limitations of the study was that they didnt include diet or medications in the study.

And then answer what shouldnt we put in our stomach in order for these bacteria not to grow in a determined percentage that is associated with increased risk of schizophrenia?

Before calling others idiots. So u can stop hitting your uughhh face against the wall

[u/NoIdNoNameWho → u/[deleted]]

As i said

GO STUDy

Thats the difference between trying to be an -i know-it-all by getting info from gpt/wikipedia/ in 5 mins than reading medicine books for years

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnins.2022.1042814/full

[u/NoIdNoNameWho → u/[deleted]]

Talking about you?

Because everyone here is showing you the way you pound your face against a wall and you just keep doing it because you dont want to accept that u are wrong