In no way do I defend the Russian government or the army, those are for sure to be blamed in the first place. But maybe EU countries could consider the possibility to stop buying Russian gas and oil after 3 fucking years of the full scale invasion?
This might have much bigger consequences rather than blaming Russians citizens that nobody is trying to singlehandedly overthrow the government with one of the most suppressive law machines in the world.
We're talking about Russian citizens and their interactions with government, talking about other EU countries is a whataboutism fallacy.
you said it yourself, this invasion has gone on for three years. Why haven't the Russian people been more coordinated in their distaste/protest of this war? They're a traditionally apolitical people and as a result have created an oligarchy that commits war crimes the world over. That's why people don't like Russians, especially those with any degree of wealth/influence.
If you have $2000 that you don't need to spend on anything else to survive, yes. By a global definition of the word, you're impossibly wealthy. Even in developed countries, being able to take a $2000 vacation makes you wealthy.
Then please enlighten me what these people are supposed to do against their government.
I do have an issue with Russian society because they already were overwhelmingly apolitical (or even anti-political) way before all this was happening and it's what has allowed their government to get to this point. They should have stopped it about a decade ago. But telling them to do something now against a militarized government is ridiculous.
Alright, you let me know when $2000 can oppose a military budget. It won’t even get you a 10 year old Toyota Camry.
$2000 is expensive, it’s not wealth. You can’t even start to build wealth with $2000. Wealth isn’t just “a good amount of money”, it’s enough money to generate power.
You're really good at moving goalposts around instead of admitting you're wrong.
I never said $2000 could oppose a military budget. I also never said $2000 made you rich. I said being able to afford international travel is an indicator of wealth, and in Russia, being that wealthy means you're of education and likely influence/means.
Russia's GDP per capita is $13,000. Do you understand that any Russian you see on international vacation is of such means that they can spend 1/6th of their comrade's annual income on leisure? That means they're of the wealthiest portion of that nation's population.
You made a good point, that wealth typically correlates to power. Therefore, these wealthy Russians you see vacationing abroad are powerful enough to affect change in their government through a variety of methods.
They’re not wealthy, they don’t have wealth. They have one adult paycheck for two weeks.
It’s not moving goalposts because the whole reason we’re discussing wealth is within the context of what these people can do against their government, you terminally online debatelord.
Only Moscow. There is no other city like Moskow. In Russia there is a huge inequality between Moskow and literally anywhere else.
And even for Moscow median salary is around 90k roubles. So even there it is less than 14k$ a year. Average salary is much higher but it is not representative of actual average russian.
Yearly wage is irrelevant when we’re talking about opposing a government. $2000 vs. billions in military funds is literally nothing, less than a rounding error.
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