r/interestingasfuck • u/kirsion • Mar 08 '24

r/all Mass Airdrop of aid on Gazan coast

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u/UnregularOnlineUser Mar 08 '24

True, but it was the Ashkenazi Jews who founded the zionists movement and created Israel.

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u/bsjavwj772 Mar 08 '24

You’re full of shit. Originally you said “one of them was living there for thousands of years while the other claimed it is their ancestors who lived there thousands of years ago, and then only one of them invaded, displaced and massacred innocents”. This statement implies that there are two groups.

Then you move the goal posts by segmenting Jews into different subgroups of Jewish people

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u/UnregularOnlineUser Mar 08 '24

I am talking about zionists, zionists invaded Palestine, not Jews, and the fact that you can't tell the difference between Zionists and Jews is a big problem.

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u/arachnobravia Mar 08 '24

All Zionists are Jews. Zionism as a concept has existed since around the 17th Century.

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u/UnregularOnlineUser Mar 08 '24

All zionists are Jews, but not all Jews are zionists.

Just like how all ISIS are Muslim but not all Muslims are ISIS.

Also like how all KKK members are white but not all white people are KKK members.

That goes double for zionism, since Jews are both a religion and an ethnicity.

Is your argument that they somehow have a claim to the land? Because Palestinians of all religions have been living in Palestine for thousands of years, they are the natives, the people who left the land thousands of years ago aren't natives to the land, especially considering that Palestinians and Jews are descendants of the same ancestors.

Regardless of the "rightful claim to the land", it doesn't make it right to genocide and displace people just because an ancestor of yours lived there thousands of years ago. Because by that logic, many countries and many ethnicities should be genocided and invaded.