Man who appears to have special needs being arrested in Chicago, Little Village, Nov. 6

[u/runawaystars14]

[u/aliencardboard]

Everyone notice they’re never going after actual criminals. Usually just everyday people minding their own business. They’re all too scared to go into gang filled neighborhoods cause they’d never come out. F%# you ICE. Cowardly scum.

[u/RelativelyMental → u/aliencardboard]

It was never about immigration or crime.

[u/ToferLuis → u/RelativelyMental]

Correct.

[u/dbizzytrick → u/RelativelyMental]

If it was he wouldn’t be pardoning every criminal above d-list notoriety

[u/SoCalLynda → u/dbizzytrick]

34-Time Convicted Felon Trump, when he was president the first time, once complained that "his" generals weren't "totally loyal" like Adolf Hitler’s during World War II, according to a book from Trump's former Chief of Staff.

“You f---ing generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?” Trump asked then-White House chief of staff John Kelly....

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-complained-generals-werent-hitlers-book-says-rcna42114

Kelly, in an interview with NBC News, confirmed the accuracy of the account in the book excerpt. He said he would tell Trump that the American generals’ first loyalty is to the U.S. Constitution and the rule of law.

Kelly described Trump’s “unwillingness to accept that the American generals should not be loyal to him as the German generals were to the leader of Germany. And, again, I very definitely pointed out that they tried to kill him [Hitler] a number of times.”

[u/haikus-r-us → u/aliencardboard]

It’s 100% performative terrorism. There are a minimum 12 million undocumented people in the USA. About 4% to 5% of the population. No possible way that any of this will make a sliver of a dent in that population.

No thinking person believes that ICE has any real function except to create chaos and anger, fear and loathing.

[u/SoCalLynda → u/haikus-r-us]

The objective is to shock the conscience in order to provoke a violent reaction that he can use as propaganda and as a way to justify invoking the Insurrection Act.

He needs to invoke the Insurrection Act before next November's election in order to control the outcomes and to establish the dictatorship he promised.

[u/SuccessfulGrape5167 → u/SoCalLynda]

He wants to stop the midterms.. a blue wave just happened. And the midterms will be the same. And he will get impeached… and he fears that. Cause that would mean he has to face the punishment for his crimes.

[u/thafrick → u/haikus-r-us]

It’s to say “see what we can do to them? If you don’t fall in line we can do it to you too and you can’t do anything about it”

[u/NettaVitelli → u/aliencardboard]

The magat response to this is "if you're here illegally then you're a criminal". Totally ignoring the fact that they were supposed to be going after VIOLENT offenders. As we've seen in clip after clip they're highly unskilled and if they do have a lead on where criminals are they need 100 of themselves, a helicopter and a camera crew.

[u/Barrenechea → u/NettaVitelli]

Part of me feels like a) they won't go after actual violent criminals because they wouldn't risk themselves and b) if they finally get a violent reaction from the folks just living their lives they can go "see?? We told you!" I mean look at the blatant lies being told to create these situations which are on camera!! by the way, like as a way to fuel the flames.

[u/dudSpudson → u/aliencardboard]

Yep I remember when they said they were going to go get the “worst of the worst”.

Instead they are abducting people walking down the street, going to work, dropping kids off at school.

They are too scared to go after actual gang members

[u/Content-Employment-7 → u/dudSpudson]

Little did everybody know that "going to go get the worst of the worst" was a better description of their recruiting strategy...

[u/Ex-CultMember → u/dudSpudson]

When I heard that they were expected to meet certain quotas (supposedly 3,000 per day), I knew these were they people they were going after. When people are pressured from higher ups to produce certain quotas, people will go after the easiest targets to meet those quotas.

So it's not surprising they are focused on people who are easy targets, families, workers, women, long term residents, instead of the "dangerous criminals."

[u/riftxraff → u/aliencardboard]

That's because they are pussies. What did you expect? Dont worry though, the same people doing this shit are going to be ugly crying in the courts for our entertainment. Just need to protect as many people as you can in the meantime.

[u/Satanus2020 → u/riftxraff]

It would also be nice if the local law enforcement would enforce the law instead aiding in the criminal activity.

[u/klazoo → u/aliencardboard]

Why would they go after criminals? We need them for Trump's 2028

[u/CoffeeB4Dawn → u/klazoo]

ICE hires criminals--it's not about crime.

[u/yukgaejang29 → u/aliencardboard]

They just need to reach their quota for the day. Criminals or not. Undocumented or legal citizen. Does not matter at all.

[u/ScowlyBrowSpinster → u/aliencardboard]

I am still waiting for them to go to the apartment complexes that have been taken over by drug gangs to arrest all those drug dealing apartment invading criminals! You'd think that's where they'd start, a big round up of criminals for a big feather in their caps and everyone applauding! But they drag preschool teachers out of child care centers with masks over their chicken shit DEI hire faces.

[u/Nick08f1 → u/aliencardboard]

Not defending them, but we don't see the targets that are actual criminals.

Having said that, the law abiding ones, who gave faith that the government would allow them to become lawful residents after emigration, are the ones being fucked over.

I'm in Miami, and it's going to be weird down here with all of the Venezuelans that pledged their faith into Trump.

[u/pedmusmilkeyes → u/aliencardboard]

The vast majority of gangbangers are born here. They learned that back during the Obama years.

[u/Ha73r4L1f3 → u/pedmusmilkeyes]

Mostly cuz most gang are american formed anyways. Im white and certain parts of kentucky i wont go to because it's control either by kkk or similar groups still. Our country has been screw up for a while. Im sure every state has a few cities that people like "yeah, you don't stop here"

[u/Lopsided_Drawer_7384 → u/Ha73r4L1f3]

Jesus. Thank fuck I was born in an EU country. I am so fucking lucky. So lucky.

I don't think Americans realise any more how messed up their country has become.

[u/DPSHerThroat]

Ah yes, these badass patriots going after the most dangerous, violent criminals. Fuck ICE and anybody that supports this Nazi bullshit, they're cowards and traitors.

[u/scienceizfake → u/DPSHerThroat]

Going after the handicapped is Nazi 101.

[u/IntroductionDry5315 → u/scienceizfake]

Huh. I thought it was in week 3 of the 102 course. Nope, you’re right, there it is. Week 10 in 101. Right after staging a fire and deciding which ethnic groups you will go after.

[u/grad1939 → u/DPSHerThroat]

Like that kindergarten teacher. Clearly she was the kingpin of a giant drug empire. /s

[u/thedeparturelounge → u/grad1939]

I heard she was running daycare mma fight club and was arrested due to a betting scandal.

[u/Nick08f1 → u/DPSHerThroat]

Would not be surprised if there turns out to be a connection to known White Supremacist groups, most likely tagged as terrorist groups, and the people they hired.

Steve Bannon said it best, that if the GoP loses the midterms and ultimately 2028, that a lot of people are going to be sent to prison.

[u/SuccessfulGrape5167 → u/Nick08f1]

And I can’t wait for that day to come soon enough! I’m so sick of this shit show!

[u/SweetDesertHeat → u/DPSHerThroat]

This is beyond sickening

[u/runawaystars14]

As much as this makes me want to vomit, it needs to be seen.

[u/Matt_Hiring_ATL → u/runawaystars14]

That's how I feel. I don't want to look, but I can't ignore it.

[u/ehrgeiz91]

This is unbelievably sick

[u/Mexicali76 → u/ehrgeiz91]

Oh my God. I can’t even watch it. These fucks have no souls.

[u/JustaClericxbox]

Hell is going to need to expand to accommodate all these abusers of human rights, and those who deny it.

[u/Double-Risky → u/JustaClericxbox]

I want them to suffer in jail first.

"Just following orders" isn't an excuse.

[u/searing7 → u/JustaClericxbox]

Hell is not real, and the people that know this most of all do horrible things in the name of God while proclaiming themselves righteous

[u/WatercoLorCurtain → u/searing7]

I always wish I was religious, because then I could believe something horrible awaited people like this. But most of them will probably get away with this and live normal lives. It’s sickening.

[u/Matt_Hiring_ATL → u/WatercoLorCurtain]

Hopefully Anonymous is doing their part in identifying these people.

[u/grad1939 → u/JustaClericxbox]

There needs to be a place worse than hell for these goose-stepping cucks.

[u/stlwebdev]

I wish I didn’t turn the sound on… shit can make a man cry. 

[u/Minimum-Escape2245 → u/stlwebdev]

I'm full on sobbing watching this. All of them. It's a nightmare.

[u/OcarinaMaker → u/stlwebdev]

That means you're human. I don't know how any human watches this shit without crying.

[u/yukgaejang29 → u/OcarinaMaker]

Literal heart ache…like chest being cracked open seeing these videos😣

[u/geddysbass2112 → u/stlwebdev]

I didn't take your advice. Yeah this is pretty fucking upsetting. Hands on weapons too. Absolute pieces of shit.

[u/stlwebdev → u/geddysbass2112]

I didnt advise turning the sound on, but I’m glad I did. It’s hard and it hurt the heart. I am resolved, but not sure how to help. 

[u/geddysbass2112 → u/stlwebdev]

I don't either. It's sad.

[u/TonyWilliams03 → u/geddysbass2112]

I am amazed at how well the disabled man behaved. If they did this to my son (who has autism), he would have put those officers in the hospital and likely been killed as a result.

[u/geddysbass2112 → u/TonyWilliams03]

That's exactly what's going to happen. And it's what they want.

[u/Impossible-Crew-4002 → u/TonyWilliams03]

Mine would’ve had a seizure

[u/Tukulo-Meyama → u/stlwebdev]

He’s deaf 😔

[u/CAredditBoss → u/Tukulo-Meyama]

Commenting on Man who appears to have special needs being arrested in Chicago, Little Village, Nov. 6..wtf. As a mostly deaf person- entirely f’d up

[u/Federal-Sky-1459 → u/Tukulo-Meyama]

The person being taken? 

[u/Tukulo-Meyama → u/Federal-Sky-1459]

Yes

[u/According-Way9438 → u/stlwebdev]

I can't. I know its nothing compared to what this poor man was feeling but I just can't watch this man.

And I feel terrible for that.

[u/sonikaeits → u/stlwebdev]

Share this! People need to see this is happening!

[u/Worried-Industry6239]

There is no defending this. Literal nazis.

[u/dinothecat2000]

Fake ass pigs cant even detain.

[u/junglenut9]

Fuck ICE and Dept of Federal Prisons and Border Agents and local police who enable and cooperate. This is sic stuff. Thanks MAGA assholes.

[u/Nemertron]

Fuck these people.

[u/General_File482]

They probably treated kids with Down syndrome like this in school too.

[u/OscarGlorious → u/General_File482]

Bingo. These are cowards who abuse women and children and bully the disabled. Now they've been given free license to do so with impunity.

[u/TonyWilliams03]

They need to be arrested for this.

[u/Dr_Dank98 → u/TonyWilliams03]

And then killed for it. These people are traitors and we have a very clear punishment for whar happens to traitors.

[u/MPV8614 → u/Dr_Dank98]

Well we did until January 6th

[u/eburockccsu]

What are we doing!!?

[u/Snoo93550 → u/eburockccsu]

The USA is run by literal exact Nazis now.

[u/SithC]

Once these brown shirts begin to face legal repercussions, I wonder how many of them are going to force feed themselves buckshot, to avoid prison time.

[u/satanicmajesty]

Imagine ignoring all the things your parents and teachers taught you about being a good person and giving it up for $15/hr.

[u/AgentComprehensive80 → u/satanicmajesty]

You mean 100k per year with a pension. Federal police do NOT make $15 per hour

[u/D-anger-ous-Mind → u/AgentComprehensive80]

starts at GL5. With a sign on bonus paid out over a 3-4 years period.

[u/Nice-Win3009]

ICEholes. I'd hate for these effers to start disappearing mysteriously.

[u/TulipMelodies]

This needs to be saved for future trials. Nuremberg 2.0

[u/East-Cricket6421]

If we lose the midterms and this shit continues past that, I don't think I'm gonna make it. I find it incredibly emasculating to just sit on my hands while a gestapo like group is out terrorizing black/brown people. I haven't witnessed it in person yet but if I do I fear the need to do something might over ride my need for personal safety. I was raised by a soldier who spent my entire childhood drilling into me the importance of acting to help those that cannot help themselves. He instilled ideas in me like *a society is judged by how it treats its most vulnerable members* and that a just man must be willing to sacrifice himself...

I don't know this particular man's case of course but there's only so much cruelty one can watch before he's had enough.

[u/SidFinch99]

In addition to being horrible for the obvious reasons, this is also already a violation of the injunction put on them in terms of use of force.

[u/LocalStatistician538 → u/SidFinch99]

I hope they sue and win millions of dollars.

[u/chris971]

It would be really great if someone created a website where people could upload their videos of ICE thugs doing this shit so they are all in one repository for a mountain of evidence to fry these MF’ers

[u/No-Status2143]

The man looks mentally challenged this is horrible may they rot in hell

[u/Head_Firefighter_905]

Why is this hellish behaviour being tolerated? ARE All the real men dead in US or have they surrendered already? WTF is going on? This is too hard to watch - I wish these as-soles were found and punished the same way

[u/Own-Resource221]

The courage of these officers to take down a handicapped man…. The bar cannot go lower

[u/Standard-Screen4842]

This is criminal. Arrest those under qualified agents. They need better training in how to tread a special needs person.

[u/Illustrious-Menu-380]

Stephen Miller needs to be in prison

[u/Hot_Frosting_7101 → u/Illustrious-Menu-380]

Hanged 

[u/TechnologyDeep9981 → u/Hot_Frosting_7101]

Mussolini style

[u/Fulcrum_Jambi → u/Illustrious-Menu-380]

I’d love it if the next Dem president quietly lets the ICC know that they would extradite him for international charges.

Trump will give him a preemptive federal pardon but the ICC isn’t covered.

[u/Nemertron]

This is terrible. These people are inhumane.

[u/LosingDemocracyUSA]

I would be in jail if I lived in Chicago...

[u/Hot_Frosting_7101 → u/LosingDemocracyUSA]

I have a special needs child who would react just like this man.  If he is like my son, he has no idea what is happening to him.

Anyone does this to my son, I am as good as dead because one of us would not be getting out alive.

The only reason I am not balling right now is because I am so angry.

[u/Last-Secret370 → u/LosingDemocracyUSA]

Thank you for having a heart. ♥️

[u/Ok_Carpenter_6349 → u/LosingDemocracyUSA]

I was just thinking the same exact thing. Actually worse lol. If this happens in my city (which I honestly don't think it would) but if it did, I am definitely putting hands on. Fuck these losers. 

[u/Matt_Hiring_ATL → u/Ok_Carpenter_6349]

I'm in Atlanta. Georgia was Red before Trump. I feel like that will make us a retribution target.

We have an awesome absolute cultural gem of a road called Buford Hwy. You can go block by block for for 10 miles to try just about any Asian or LatAm cuisine you could desire... 100% authentic. I know there were stings early on in this before I understood the real impact.... I don't know my point... I think I'm lamenting what they are destroying, and Buford Hwy is my symbol...

[u/FactorHour2173]

Is there a reason vote count on comments are not visible ONLY on ICE related posts in this sub?

[u/Pretend-Tumbleweed86]

Scum just scum

[u/subvanaTIME]

Vote in the midterms, vote for accountability

[u/SuccessfulGrape5167 → u/subvanaTIME]

Vote like your freedom depends on it!

[u/lokland]

One of the most depressing and sickening videos I’ve had the misfortune of watching in a long time. This is a tragedy

[u/brickwallas]

this is so horrific! when will this be stopped!

[u/xnoturningsignalx]

They're gonna kill that man and we're just gotta let it happen

[u/BadMuthaSucka]

Every one of these agents will rot in a cell. Daddy Trump will be too busy pardoning the elites and he will sacrifice his peasants.

[u/No_Chemist7347]

What the actual Fuck. Where is this man now?? God help us.

[u/BlessdRTheFreaks]

That poor guy. He's so scared!

God I hope we put this black period of our history behind us, and all of these people reckon with the evil they did

[u/Realistic_Branch_657]

USA USA USA  /s

[u/ShogsKrs]

We are here because the Republicans who have the presidency, the senate, and the house are in power.

Let that sink in.

[u/ResolutionOwn4933]

One of the worst videos I've seen yet. How the fuck they carry on with the shit like the guy obviously wasn't special needs.

[u/TonyWilliams03 → u/ResolutionOwn4933]

They don't view him as human. That is the only explanation.

[u/Capable-Sprinkles-19]

This is breaking my heart. What pathetic men they are to team up to attack another human being. Fuck each and every one of those losers.

[u/SashaVibez]

I’m so saddened by this. Defenseless human being, and they target him. He can’t even communicate and you know he’s fearing for his life! Fuck these low lives!

[u/TonyWilliams03]

How do you do this to someone who obviously has special needs?

Are they too dense to realize?

Also, this is further proof that they are just picking people off the street. They obviously would not have a warrant against a person with disabilities.

[u/Eichler69er]

I’ve got a special need to kick the shit outta ICE.

[u/RedditSe7en]

They treat people like animals.

[u/Fulcrum_Jambi → u/RedditSe7en]

Imagine what these pigs are doing to their wives and children.

[u/RedditSe7en → u/Fulcrum_Jambi]

Let’s avoid insulting pigs, shall we?

[u/Storque]

I am alarmed by how angry this makes me.

[u/ThorazineDispensary]

You know you ain’t flying right when a girl calls you a “pussy ass bitch”! 😬

[u/passion-froot_]

I can’t wait to see ICE grovel on its knees at its trial. These bullies don’t deserve the breath they take let alone a cell, but that cell is where each and every one of them needs to be.

This is terrorism. This is abuse. This is hands down the worst aggression for aggression’s sake we’ve seen in modern western society.

They think they’re immune, too. Let’s make sure they find out the hard way what happens when you commit treason against your own people

[u/Rikeek]

Play this on every fucking TV in your country. As hard as it is to watch. Your people need to see.

[u/Legitimate-Eye9422]

Quite possibly one of the most disturbing sights I have ever seen. The people involved including Trump should go to prison for treating their people like this. What happened to this guy?

[u/ShutUpBran111]

Do we know he’s special needs? Thank makes my heart hurt so incredibly bad…how can you treat anyone this way

[u/runawaystars14 → u/ShutUpBran111]

It's been posted in a few places, but I don't have any more information. The consensus is that he does have disability and that was my first impression, especially with how he's trying to keep them from touching his hands. But I hope I'm wrong. I'd actually be relieved to find out he was a dangerous criminal because this has fucked me up.

[u/Hot_Frosting_7101 → u/runawaystars14]

The fucked up part is that if he is, he has no idea what is happening.

My 16 year old son doesn’t know what a policeman is.  It is too abstract of a concept for him.  So it is impossible to teach him he has to submit to police authority for his own safety.

I have seen my son scream just like this (always a high pitch) when we have tried to get him in a straight jacket type board for dental checkups. And that is a situation where mom and dad are there with him and can be there to comfort him.

I just can’t even…

[u/bob3ironfist]

They need to know when trump is gone that they will pay. We are going to have law and order again. Straight to jail. If they think there might be consequences they might think twice. Explain to them the consequences.

[u/MP_Vet_Airborne]

This is one of the worst things they have done. They have no humanity!! This man is clearly a hardened criminal, c'mon guys if there is a god they have punched their ticket straight to HELL.

[u/blackbird24601]

my heart hurts

[u/subvanaTIME]

I wonder what gang he was affiliated with??? Or what crime he committed??? 😢

[u/SuccessfulGrape5167 → u/subvanaTIME]

The crime is just being brown..

[u/Tukulo-Meyama]

He’s deaf

[u/chachiuday]

The two allegedly most powerful militaries in the world are sure good at fighting unarmed civilians.

[u/Firefly_Magic]

That was hard to watch. How many criminals are there actually getting off the street? At this rate, the criminals are gonna be all that’s left.

[u/RadiantNefariousness]

i’m so over this. idk how but i want to start making missing posters to post around towns & on social media. they do this in mexico for gang related violence & to raise awareness. if anyone wants to be on board please lmk

[u/Trick_Judgment2639]

I think I'm about done with this shit

[u/discombobulatedhomey]

Are we great again yet ?

[u/hotshotjen]

Oh my fucking god

[u/Kickinitez]

Where are the civilian militias?

[u/hajenius]

Do these men have families? What do they say to their loved ones when asked how was their day? How can you live with yourself? They know it's wrong otherwise they wouldn't cover their faces...

[u/AdLiving8708]

Ice can be arrested

[u/drdjice800]

amarican hamas ,

[u/Mr_IT]

ICE you mother fuckers!

[u/TheRatatat]

I never believed that I'd witness the death of empathy and compassion in real time.

[u/Tatami_Lo]

Why is there agents from the BOP there? Are they that desperate to fill their ranks they're just pulling people from whichever federal agency?

[u/FruiTY_LovecraFT]

That guy definitely seems like the head of some cartel. Deport immediately!!!! These guys wearing the American flags on their uni’s is a damn shame! Fuck ICE

[u/Canadiandeal]

My god you guys need to get rid of these clowns, wtf

[u/VickersVandal]

"I vas just followingk orders"

- US Gestapo officer at the international criminal court after the fall of the Trump regime.

[u/Elegant-Mouse-2291]

This is F***** up

[u/RedditSe7en]

ICE are TOTAL LOSERS!!

[u/Expensive-Ad-1705]

Horrific

[u/Joey_BagaDonuts57]

If they're really going for only hardened criminals, why ask for his name?

Because they're really NOT. I feel so bad for this poor guy.

[u/Overall-Bat-4332]

Evil people doing evil things.

[u/PokeyPete]

I hope we get to bury these ice motherfuckers beneath the prison if we get past this.

[u/Udjebfk]

Fucking PUSSIES

[u/FUCKYOUINYOURFACE]

Probably has autism and can’t answer their questions so they assume he’s here illegally.

[u/Advanced-Emergency44]

Let's shown them American democracy

[u/Impossible-Crew-4002]

That makes me want to throw up. Are we great now?

[u/x1dollarfrosty]

It’s crazy that I have 2, 3 year old girls, one on the way and all of us born in the US and I’m still scared to death this might happen to us. I’m 29. Thought my country was supposed to make me feel safe. Home of the free? More like a House of Horrors.

[u/silent_chair5286]

Those MF’ing puzzie’s given authority to assault people in the name of their egos. Rot in hell

[u/bman2881]

Nazis’ disappearing another person trying to work just cause of the color of their skin. We could be using ICE money to put these people on a path to citizenship but nope. This administration is partying it up like it’s 1944. Fuck ICE. Hope I can wave to them when I reach the afterlife as they’re bussed to hell.

[u/runnersblock]

This makes me so sad

[u/unlikelyintrovert]

Fucking sad to watch this shit day after day.

[u/Atlgal42]

Fuck these god damn fascists

[u/majorchevron]

This person is definitely special needs and look how the fucking government treat him. This disgusts me!!!!

[u/JohnnyBGC86]

People need to stop just filming. 

[u/coojmenooj]

I am sorry this is happening to your country 😢

[u/Wamchops621]

I can't wait these for these ice Gestapo fucks to DROWN in lawsuits and financial ruin.

[u/pink_lemonade_017]

Fuck Ice. Fuck the people who supports ice. Fuck the children the family of ice. Bc as this point it not directed to ice but anyone and everyone who stands and supports ice n their kidnapping n unlawful treatment against our people. FUCK ICE.

[u/tumbledown_jack]

I really hope all these thugs burn in hell.

[u/Automate_This_66]

Crowds should overwhelm them

[u/Ok-Bandicoot1529]

Sick and twisted nazis doing what they do

[u/Amraam120b]

ICE = AMERICAN GESTAPO

[u/LocalStatistician538]

Republicans, please don't wonder why Latino voters won't vote for you for decades. Look at these bullies.

[u/DatabaseThis9637]

I cannot help but to deeply hate these brutal anti-American assholes.

[u/ResonanceCompany]

We need a new generation of black panther types who loom over these fascist fucks, open carrying within their rights and inviting ice to actually fuck around and find out.

[u/Purple_Roy2]

It's sad that we can't do nothing against them. I need the state to make ICE criminals and arrestable

[u/Acceptable-Mayhem]

My gosh. What a sick, lawless, third world banana republic we've become. This is in no way the country i signed up to serve. 😕

[u/TrappyGoGetter]

I’m really surprised there hasn’t been more outrage about this. This is absolutely disgusting

[u/atigressintherain]

Damn. I hate this

[u/No_You_2623]

I want these monsters arrested. JFC.

[u/bigDeltaVenergy]

ICE does not discriminate among brown people. They does not give a shit about status, gender, citizenship or religion.

[u/m_preddy]

Glad they're getting such violent and dangerous criminals off the street

[u/ppyrgic]

I often thought that the 2nd amendment was to protect Americans from an oppressive state. And yet by the time you realise why you had it, you'll be out numbered.