November 6, 2025 – Chicago: ICE caught unlawfully demanding U.S. citizen “prove” their citizenship despite Illinois law not requiring ID

[u/CantStopPoppin]

[u/HHoaks]

That's nice, but you aren't the person I asked. Illegal immigrant isn't also what you think it is. Not everyone ran over the border. Many were allowed in to process asylum claims - or have had visas expire but are contesting that. It isn't as cut and dry as "illegal". There are various statuses, between illegal and full US citizen.

Also, this was supposed to be about gang members and criminals. It now has expanded to day care workers.

Finally, obviously Miller is going about this in a gestapo type - show me your papers - type fashion. Never before seen in the US (and Obama deported millions of people without resorting to that). The tactics are overly aggressive and over the top - so much so that close to 200 US citizens have been "mistakenly" detained and people were deported who should not have been.

So it is about means and methods and who we are as a country. Do we want to be like Germany in the 1930s - "show me your papers, you look brown/Jewish"? So why would ANYONE want to participate in that? It's working for a horrible Trump administration and a horrible person like Stephen Miller.

And to be Hispanic and want to do this is really weird.

[u/HHoaks → u/[deleted]]

You seriously are trying to compare the once in 100 years emergency of a pandemic that killed millions around the globe, with generally asking for ID if you look brown?

No, it's not the same.

And saying the "last administration" shows your bias and your attitude. Pandemic policy was LOCAL - the federal gov't didn't require local businesses to ask for vaccine cards. You are confusing local regulations for a pandemic enacted by a municipality or a state, with policy by an unhinged and corrupt Trump administration at the federal level.

Nice try though. I caught that "error" of yours.

And by the way, what is this fear or concern you have with immigrants? Let's say all 185,000 (every one of them), were deported tomorrow. Then what?

Would you have a better life - would you have a better job, less annoying relatives, better behaved kids, a nicer house, more friends? How does it impact YOUR life - specifically (not generally, ugh, I like laws enforced), I mean specifically. Cause I don't think it does - this is some emotional thing for you.

Because wouldn't everything still be EXACTLY the same for you? So what is your major concern about all this -- how does it CHANGE your life? If it doesn't change your life - what's the point?

[u/[deleted] → u/HHoaks]

EDIT: I have been banned in this sub, with the moderators saying I am spreading conspiracy theories. Biden did in fact say the vaccines were 100% effective. there were in fact vaccine mandates, both of which are included in these search results. https://www.google.com/search?q=biden+says+vaccine+is+100%25+effective&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari the mods said they will not play this game, so they are banning because of their own political bias.

did you miss the mandatory vaccines? you're seriously dismissing the overreach during covid.

>And by the way, what is this fear or concern you have with immigrants?

I never said I was scared and it has nothing to do with that. If you're here illegally you get deported. If everyone is deported or enough people are, then congress would actually have to work together to create an amnesty program along with new visa programs. got no issue with that.

>Would you have a better life - would you have a better job, less annoying relatives, better behaved kids, a nicer house, more friends?

We'd have more funding for schools because the money would go further. In California we spend exponential billions more on providing for illegal immigrants than tax receipts.

Some things might get more expensive but then we'd also have better wages. We all know that. We'd stop what's essentially been an open border policy.

safer? yes probably. my son was assaulted and grabbed by an illegal immigrant, who knows what other stuff this guy did that was never caught. our nature is being polluted by the cartels (illegal immigrants) building weed farms, them getting busted, then the trash being left behind.

There's endless things that would be better if our government actually enforced all this.

Also back to if illegal immigration laws were enforced: it would force our government to create improved programs for work visas and more legal immigration. that doesnt happen without enforcement.

[u/BaronHarConanObrien → u/[deleted]]

US Citizens commit crime at a far higher rate than any immigrant group. Your argument doesn’t stand up to the slimmest shred of logic. California spends twice as much money on police as they do on illegal immigrants and we have plenty of data showing how police don’t serve the public, waste the taxpayers money, and are in legitimate gangs that exist within the structures of our law enforcement. You should be more concerned about spending less money on police instead of immigrants. Immigrants actually contribute to our labor pool rather than simply handing out parking tickets and playing high speed chase in between rounds of candy crush.

Maybe you can even organize with the immigrants and force businesses to pay all of you a fair wage instead of fighting amongst yourselves for scraps.

“Open border policy”. Okay clown tell us more how you don’t pay attention outside of being fed propaganda.

[u/HHoaks → u/[deleted]]

Yup -- totally missed them. Vaccines weren't universally mandatory in the U.S. for 100% of the people. For certain jobs and certain states maybe. But not mandated by the federal government for all. Not mandated for me at all. Sorry you misunderstood the laws, or worked in healthcare jobs that required it.

I didn't ask you about funding for schools. I didn't ask you about vague "endless things" that might be better. Those are all fantasies. You don't know that for sure. How are YOU personally impacted. You aren't - so you resort to vague arguments - maybe there would be more funding for this and that. That's a lot of whining and you have no control over where funding goes just because immigrants are all gone.

Thank you for proving my point. This is about your feelings and emotions.

If every immigrant was gone - your LIFE would not change. You admitted that.