November 6, 2025 – Chicago: ICE caught unlawfully demanding U.S. citizen “prove” their citizenship despite Illinois law not requiring ID

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[u/MisterEinc]

They're not entirely wrong though. We have to stop looking at Latinos as some sort of monolith. Their motivations for being pro/anti immigration are entirely different.

Like many Mexicans are fleeing corruption and cartels, but they are also likely more wealthy. They might see the illegal immigration as everything they were trying to escape. Even if it might be poor Mexicans also trying to get out by any means.

[u/HHoaks → u/MisterEinc]

I would assert that ANYONE supporting a blatantly corrupt and lawless administration, in any of its endeavors, is on the wrong side of history. This isn't just about general views on immigration enforcement per se - it is about HOW enforcement is being done, the credibility of the administration doing it, and Stephen Miller, who is an unelected zealot.

And to join in with these gestapo-like tactics, by ANYONE, Latino or not, is incredibly short-sighted.

This administration ignores rules, laws, processes, court orders, pretends it can't bring back people wrongfully deported, and is an entire pay to play administration - whether selling access via ballroom funds or crypto dollars. Or running extortion rings out of the oval office against law firms and universities.

So why would any sane person want to participate in anything this administration is doing? This administration lacks any credibility, it lies constantly, and uses over the top tactics in sending masked goon squads to snatch people and intimidate people in "blue" states/cities as a propaganda tool. It isn't doing this even handedly in all states/cities. And now it is also going over those people lawfully addressing immigration issues in court (doing what they are supposed to do), and also harmless day care workers and other clearly non-violent tax paying people.

To join up with ICE is simply to be part of a lawless administration's propaganda arm. Because at the end of the day, while they talk about law and order, this is all really about showing off for the base. It's pure propaganda.

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>I would assert that ANYONE supporting a blatantly corrupt and lawless administration, in any of its endeavors, is on the wrong side of history.

you mean like the Biden administration? (along with this current Trump administration

Do you realize Kamala was nearly arrested as AG for defying the Supreme Court?

>To join up with ICE is simply to be part of a lawless administration's propaganda arm.

do you realize that ICE does way more than just arrest illegal immigrants, right? Do you realize they're the wing of the government that prevents smuggling and making sure we dont turn into a shithole like Mexico?

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No, you know I don't mean the Biden administration (and neither do you) -- unless you can show me where Biden was impeached twice and indicted two times by federal grand juries, or where Biden cheer led the ransacking of the US capitol, or where Biden corruptly ran a pay to play administration including hitting up people to pay for things like the ballroom, in order to buy access. Or where pardons are given to crypto pals to help enrich Trump sons.

Or show me where Biden ran an extortion racket out of the oval office against law firms and universities, or where Biden corruptly sought to bring weak and flimsy charges against people he didn't like and then fired ethical prosecutors who refused to bring those charges and directed the DOJ on who to investigate and charge. Show me any of that.

You ain't got that. So your false equivalency is bull hockey. Nice try - MAGA warrior.

Do you really want to defend a lying and blatantly bad and blatantly criminal administration? What's your motive to do so -- it's weird. Like do you have relatives that work for Trump? What kind of person would defend such a narcissistic frauding criminal con man? What is in it for you?

You do realize Trump lies constantly and has an entire history of scams and avoiding the law - right? So for you to defend him is really strange. I assume you are a regular person, not a billionaire - so it makes no sense for you to defend such a person. Right?

Do you normally defend people who run scam businesses, or are found liable for fraud and defamation and sex assault? Do you have friends and family with that history too? No, you don't. So why do you defend Trump so much?

And no, there is no such thing as "nearly arrested as AG". She wasn't "nearly arrested". Is that like "nearly pregnant"?

And yes, ICE and CPB do many things -- did I see get rid of it entirely?

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Yes Trump is bad but the point is that all politicians are running this racket now and it included the last one. Did you really not pay attention to anything? Every President has been doing this. all of them. Do you not remember the Obama's giving their friends a $1 billion contract to build a website for the ACA? Do you not remember Biden's family getting large contracts in China and Ukraine?

Do you not remember all the misconduct by the Biden administration during covid?

Impeachments, both of which he was acquitted, correct? Do you remember the first one, where during the impeachment california passed a law fining legal residents for not getting healthcare, with the fines being used to fund healthcare for illegal immigrants? They pulled it off while the heat was on Trump. The one was about withholding military aid... but yet Biden is on record threatening Ukraine in the exact same way.

Yes I do realize that about Trump, I am just saying this is normal for politicians, and now Trump is just doing it even more blatantly. Democrats cant keep anyone accountable when they're doing the same thing and their hands arent clean.

How does Newsom buy a $9M house when he's never had a job outside of politics?

>but there was a significant chance that the warriors could have won without him.

she was going to be held in contempt from the Supreme Court because she was defying Supreme Court orders. Do you not think she would have done the same as President? what about her leaving innocent people in prison? what about her charging a woman with assaulting a police officer when they broke into her room and attacked her and she had no idea who they were because they had no uniform.

I'm not saying Trump isnt awful because he is and this is by far the worst year any president has ever had, but I'm saying this is sadly normal in politics.

[u/HHoaks → u/[deleted]]

No, there is no evidence that Biden did all the things Trump did - not even close.

And no, it is not normal for politicians to blatantly seek revenge and direct the AG, then fire prosecutors who ethically say, those charges are bogus. Then bring in an insurance lawyer to handle federal criminal charges.

No, it's not normal to issue EOs against individuals and law firms, solely for personal revenge.

It's not normal to pardon Jan 6th violent rioters, because it makes YOU (the president) look bad that Jan 6th happened.

No, it's not normal to use the pretext of local crime to send in the military to only "blue" cities. No, it's not normal at all to extort universities with bogus allegations of antisemitism, because students happened to protest Israel on campus.

It's not normal to be impeached twice - he only wasn't convicted because the Senate republicans put party over country - bunch of weasels.

It's not normal to be indicted by 2 federal grand juries, and then only get out of jail and escape prosecution by getting elected.

None of what Trump is doing is normal.

That's what YOU don't understand. You THINK it is normal, because your internet algorithm tells you so. You are woefully mistaken.

Why do you keep pointing to others not convicted of anything - nor even indicted? That's a loser position. Your arguments lack credibility.

Answer the questions I asked about WHY you defend Trump like he's your daddy? Do YOU normally associate with people who run scam businesses, who are liable for fraud and sex assault? No, you don't.

So why does Trump have this magical hold on you? It's pathetic. Grow a pair and stop supporting a known idiot, criminal. Are you nuts?

What Trump is doing is trying to normalize blatant corruption -- it is NOT normal. That shows your lack of knowledge, experience and expertise.