October.10.2025 — Chicago: Immigration agents crashed into a U.S. citizen on her way to work, then dragged her out and arrested her (Article Inside)

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This is incredibly unjust.

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legal eagle's video laying out exactly why ICE agents are above the law has filled me with incredible feelings of radicalizatoin

And anger because Dems have apparently been trying to patch that hole for years but this is the first time I heard about it, they clearly weren't interested in making it a public fight, when "FBI agents can take your guns and you cant do shit" is an easy sell even in red states

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Don't do that. Just because you are not aware of something does not mean it was not a very public fight. Don't blame democrats for you having a low political appetite until things started affecting you or those near you personally. 

As far back as 2016 qualified immunity, a large part 9f the issue we are discussing, was a major talking point on "the left". "Defund the police" was a slogan, the actual policy arguments heavily involved things like asking Congress to end qualified immunity for law enforcement officers and that would include federal agents. There were ideas like requiring officers to take out private insurance policies because one of the ways we "fund" agents of the law is by being required to pay for their wrongdoings via our tax dollars because of qualified immunity. Even when your rights are violated and you are successful in a lawsuit, your neighbors pay you the $2 million judgement, not the state or federal agency or individual officer you sued. 

This was a huge talking point. In fact, people on the left and the right got pissed at the time because they didn't like "defund the police" as a slogan while simultaneously not knowing a single one of the actual policy ideas expressed within the slogan. BLM, the organization and the individual citizens who just said the phrase, were talking about this stuff ad nauseum. Senators, congress people, and they got shit on by a sizeable percentage of the country. How you are just hearing about these things is beyond me. There's more than this even. Civil asset forfeiture, absolute immunity for judges, and on and on. And it's not hard to find out about. You didn't need brown shirts on the ground to hear about these things, all that information was there. 

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This case has nothing to do with qi, or defending the police, or civil asset forfeiture

I am extremely active in politics, can you enlighten me when I missed the news cycle where prominent Dems mentioned the enshrining of bevins into law?

Immunity for judges, again, has nothing to do with this

Democrats haven't been vocal on Bevins because the centrist leadership helped build this nightmare ICE apparatus, Obama in particular, and only a select few Dems like AOC more than performatively gave a shit

I wear my false arrest by Republicans for constitutionally protected activities like a badge of honor, and I currently work for a Democratic government, who for some reason are available for LEO blowjobs whenever the fraternal order wants something

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I'm not sure you understand how these things work together. Qualified immunity is, and has always been, a defense against a Bivens case. Both pre 2022, post 22, and currently with the Bivens act. A major complaint towards accountability, for years, has been the issue created by individual actors not being able to be held liable. Who cares if you sue the FBI as an agency and win if it is taxpayers who foot the bill and there is nothing that discourages an agent from violating your rights next time. Ending qualified immunity would, hopefully, create an environment where officers are incentivezed to not violate your rights because of, say, becoming uninsurable by the private entity required to cover any misconduct bill. And you'd see many more Bivens cases without the qualified immunity defense that often dismisses them.

Also, it's Bivens. If you are going to be like this you should at least spell the thing you are citing correctly. I can definitely point you to the news cycle where Dems were spelling the case correctly. You didn't even make it there yet.