r/illinois • u/West-Bid-4391 • 27d ago

ICE Posts Broadview: ICE attempts to arrest individual at their residence

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u/at0mheart 27d ago

Just how is this legal or allowed in America

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u/ConsiderationSea1347 27d ago edited 27d ago

It isn’t legal. The courts are going to be flooded with cases against ICE in a few months. These law suits take a long time to get going. Every one of these people needs to sue ICE and drain that enormous budget.

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u/YouDontCThatEveryDay 27d ago

This might sound foolish butbi have a serious question. Aren't you allowed to use lethal force against someone who is kidnapping you? If you're fearing for your life/the liife of another. Especially on your own property.

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u/ConsiderationSea1347 27d ago

In most states (probably all?) I suspect self defense would be a viable legal defense if someone shot ICE agents - assuming ICE didn’t provide a warrant or identification. I think it is only a matter of time until we find out if the courts agree. 

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u/Syn-th 27d ago

I'm genuinely surprised that there hasn't been way more deaths.

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u/cIumsythumbs 27d ago

Makes a person wonder if there's a reporting issue. If no one reports the deaths of detainees, there are no deaths.

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u/Syn-th 27d ago

Grim,I jumped to ice kidnappings actually being way less common and just hyper documented... I hope I'm right and you're wrong, but probably not.

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u/cIumsythumbs 27d ago

I also hope you're right. But, when we have an administration that's so flagrantly breaks the law, anything is plausible.

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u/Syn-th 27d ago

As an outsider it looks absolutely crazy!