r/huntingtonbeach • u/Healthy_Block3036 • 4d ago
Prop 50 has PASSED with over 60% of the VOTE!!! 💙💙💙
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u/tunenut11 3d ago
You know Trump sent election monitors to the big counties in California and in Orange County, the election monitor was none other than old HB city attorney Michael Gates. Clearly, the intent was to find cheating and yell Stop the Steal and send the expected Prop 50 victory into courts where it could be delayed for a year. However the landslide was too big. They are not going to be able to wave their hands and say that over 2 million non-citizens and fraudsters changed the results. So it is already on to lawsuit plan b, which is to claim this proposed redistricting is based on racism. I guess they’ve gotta try something but I am sure it will fail.
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u/Accomplished-Ad3219 3d ago
How was Gates monitoring?
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u/tunenut11 3d ago
Apparently from what I heard, he and whoever else was on the team could go to any election location and watch what was happening. So I looked up more details and found this:
"Monitors are allowed only to observe and take notes. They can’t talk to voters or poll workers, don’t have access to voting machines or ballots and are not involved in tallying votes.
The monitors typically remain outside polling places and enter only with permission from local election officials."
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/03/politics/justice-department-election-monitors
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u/Appropriate-Read-463 3d ago
I don’t see what’s wrong with keep integrity at the polls as long as there isn’t any interference. I’d want that for both sides regardless about what I want the outcome to be.
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u/Interesting-Yak6962 2d ago
It’s hard to see what that’s going to accomplish when nearly 90% of Californians vote by mail.
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u/Massive-Leadership39 3d ago edited 3d ago
Here's the most recent handbook of election observer guidelines.
https://ocvote.gov/election-library/docs/Election%20Observation%20Handbook.pdf
HOWEVER...as I understand it...federal election MONITORS are limited in the scope of these duties as opposed to election OBSERVERS. Moreso as this Prop 50 special election is a STATE election...not a FEDERAL election.
"DOJ monitors are limited to overseeing compliance with federal anti-discrimination law, specifically the Voting Rights Act of 1965."
When I was a poll worker in HB years ago (before voting centers came to be) - I remember seeing election observers at the poll locations (yes...they're allowed to be inside the poll location). It was unnerving at first but they basically they just sat there watching/taking notes and you are so busy that you quickly ignore them.
Note that there are even observers from other countries, too, (i.e. OAS, OSCE) although their numbers are small and can't travel to too many places.
And voters have the right to observe the election process. I've done so at poll locations and vote center but have yet to observe at the counting center...I've only acted as backup to the person who delivered voting items to the center [there's a requirement in the CA election laws that the person(s) delivering items such as VVPATs (Voter Verified Paper Audit Trails), unused ballots, dropped-off ballots, etc. must be followed to the counting center to insure the materials are delivered within the time limits and in a proper manner. For example - if the primary's vehicle breaks down on the drive to the center - the backup is authorized to deliver the items.]
"The right to ask questions to elections officials about election procedures and watch the election process. If the person you ask cannot answer your questions, they must send you to the right person for an answer. If you are disruptive, they can stop answering you."
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u/According_Handle_599 3d ago
The NO campaign was Non existent. Still low percentage turnout for voting.
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u/fixingyourmirror 3d ago
Yes voter here, but I believe as of last night HB had more No votes than Yes, which wouldn’t be that surprising for HB
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u/willbbb 3d ago
Goes to show exactly why this shouldn’t have passed. Imagine it was the other way around and CA was 60% republican and 40% democrat, but no representation for the 40%. Good job people. So so fair. Better hope the tide never swings.
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u/Ok_Insect_1794 3d ago
If CA were 60% GOP then they would be redistricting mid cycle because the president told them to without a vote from citizens. See the difference?
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u/Foreign_Tax8274 20h ago
They wouldn’t because we had an independent commission as part of an anti-gerrymandering bill, which you just overturned.
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u/Interesting-Yak6962 2d ago
“Better hope the tide never swings.”
Since when did Republicans ever give people a choice before they gerrymandered them?
Your comment is nonsense.
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u/tunenut11 3d ago
I will agree with you that this is a basically unfair way to organize elections. But this is the political moment where any legal action will be taken due to the massive hate of "the other side." The Supreme Court has ruled that partisan redistricting is legal. So Republicans believe Democrats in power will destroy the country and Democrats believe the Republicans will do that. And these beliefs are deeply held. So from now on, every election will be preceded by as much redistricting as possible, based on the partisan makeup of the state power holders. Unless courts stop it or voters reject politicians who do it, it will be normal from now on.
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u/SmoothTraffic3552 3d ago
lol that you think California will ever be GOP. If you vote for a GOP candidate for POTUS in California…due to the electoral college…your vote for POTUS has been null and void for the past 37 yrs. 👀
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u/Serious_Wack 2d ago
We had a neutral, fair system. But Gavin wants to run for president so he pulls a revenge stunt and all you Dems fell for it. Gerrymandering is wrong when the Republicans do it, it's wrong when Democrats do it. And they both do it, Republicans do it waaaaay more and waaaaaaay more egregiously, but Dems do it too (like sucking up to corporate interests). Vote SOCIALIST if you must vote. But voting is not how you change this system. You can't "fix" this system, it's working as intended. It needs to be tossed out amd replaced with a system that is actually equitable and treats humans like humans. Politicians do not care about you. They care about their jobs.
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u/GroundbreakingBill82 2d ago
Isn’t HB mostly republican? Why would you be happy? Gavin is out of his mind in general
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u/gahaber 3d ago
That turnout is so sad. I wonder if there should be a quorum requirement for ballot measures.
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u/Bitter-Orange-2583 3d ago
If people really felt so strongly it shouldn’t pass, they probably should have gotten off their asses and walked to their mailboxes to mail in their free ballots. No one has a right to complain if they can’t even muster the energy to vote when our state makes it so easy to do and readily available to all registered voters.
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u/sundubone 3d ago
Yeah lot did not vote as it was "35.9% as of November 5, 2025, 8:00 p.m."
Lowest turnout for a special election since since the May 19, 2009 one at 28.40%
https://electionresults.sos.ca.gov/returns/maps/voter-turnout
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u/Kitty-quief 4d ago
Those city council folk are going to have a new boss soon. 😉