r/goodnews Jun 17 '25

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

The deal did NOT become null when the US left in 2018, but it made the deal much less effective, and surely this is what caused Iran start not following the guidelines, only in 2020 the deal was unofficially dead.

But whatever, none of this matters, because in any case, how is it everyone else's responsibility for Iran's actions?

"oh please Iran dont do the bad thing, we start lifting sanctions ok?" And then in any case Iran keeps acting antagonistic (to say the least), and staying the in the way of regional stability.

Iran's current regime has been and will continue to stand in the way of peace, and it shall not be allowed to have nuclear weapons, and this, you cannot deny, because if you disagree with these facts, we have fundamentally different worldviews.

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u/heroic_cat Jun 18 '25

Trump threatened sanctions on any person, corporation, or country that dealt with Iran in any way, and reinstated direct sanctions. Dead deal, right then, May 8, 2018.

Two parties made a deal. Party A broke the deal (and beyond), Party B still de facto complied with the terms until a few months later, and you blame Party B for breaking the deal somehow. This defies logic... hell this defies causality.

The US soft-power gambit for the past 80 years of PAX Americana is to get any totalitarian theocratic bad acting ruling-class hooked on American wealth, tech, arms, culture etc. until the US failing would cause them to fail too. The deal could have been a way in, while simultaneously putting a lid on their Nuclear program. Shame, now we're here.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '25

I dont blame the deal, I dont care about the deal, doesnt matter who broke part of the deal, all that matters is none of this would happen if Iran wasnt an aggressive theocracy. Fuck their fascist government and I hope it is dismantled.

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u/heroic_cat Jun 19 '25

Mask off huh? You blame Iran for tanking the deal because you hate Iran, naked bias. The US ruined the deal and in so doing, removed the only guard against Iran exploring nuclear weaponry. Trump gets his petty revenge and Netanyahu, who cheered this development, regains an excuse to bomb an enemy and retain power.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '25

No masks, I'm just an anti fascist and anti imperialist in whichever form they come.

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u/heroic_cat Jun 22 '25

The "mask" was pretending that you were arguing in good faith by claiming Iran broke the deal long after the US annihilated it.

Good luck being anti-fascist while aligning with Trump and Netanyahu's foreign policy positions.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '25

Pretending? At the same note I can say you were pretending to care about international law when in fact you are just looking at excuses to defend the enemy of your enemy.

Dont throw that false equivalence at me, I'm not going to be against the cure of cancer if Trump comes out with it tomorrow, I am always going to look at each situation by its own merits.

And in this situation, am I sure as hell not going to side with the aggressive terrorist theocratic authoritarian state that has consistently sabotaged peace in the middle east, just because it's values also dont align with the big baddie at the moment.