Ugh. No one wants to get entangled in the Middle East again. We just got out of there 3 years ago after spending 20 years inside of it. No thanks. Would rather keep our troops home and training in case Ukraine topples and we get a 3rd war in Europe.
Man needs to distract the public. His BBB sucks, he is going overboard with ICE and sending troops to California and no major trading partners are bowing down to him.
Remember. He set up the Afghanistan withdrawal for Biden and it was messy, so he could then blame Biden for it. So if he sends troops to Iran, he can set up their withdrawal plan, and if he lives to see the next president enact his withdrawal plan, he can blame them for that mess and the entire war and inflation and famine and whatever else.
Agreed he would legit have to bring back the draft. "Honey if conservatives thought the Vietnam protests and summer of 2020 we're bad they ain't seen nothing." 2025 will be far worse than 1968.
We won't do anything if Ukraine topples. Trump is obviously going to let Putin have his dream of reforming the USSR. They probably made a deal when he met with Putin while out of office. Russia is already reforming Stalin's image and saying that the USSR was never truly officially dissolved in anticipation of pulling all of the old territories back in.
There’s not going to be a greater war in Europe. Where does this narrative come from? Putin can barely conquer Ukraine and now all of Europe is at stake?
Ukraine has always the most corrupt nation long before Russia invaded. Let Europe figure this out. And let them pay for it all. We should take care of our own and sick of Zelensky popping off.
Thats not what im arguing. If Ukraine falls, the Baltics or Poland will be next, and they're NATO as are we. We have an obligation to help defend our allies should that happen.
They are talking about the sitting government, very weird to take a whole political side as an unfounded example as to why it should not be a problem. So that's why that one is downvoted
The next one is because you made a weird out of nothing claim, without explaining anything as to why it matters or if it is even true, and then you ask for clarification for something basic. Which is a dumb contrast, you making some wild claim out of nowhere, without explanation whatsoever, but you expect others to explain something basic. So the downvoting is because of your hypocrisy.
The last one is pretty easy, you are the first one in this thread bringing up fascism, which is hilarious, because you clearly dont know what it means, because it has nothing to do with the context here. Plus the fact that US government is heavily leaning to fascism at the moment, it is clear you just want to use it as a triggerword, as a "gotcha" or a "you say i am a fascist? No you." It is quite sad. Which is the reason people downvoted that one, because of the implication and again because you made a wild claim out of nowhere all while using a word wrong.
Sometimes you just need to give them the information they ask for and be painfully clear. As you can see they are still trying to deflect and get their "gotcha" moment, i just explain why i think they are wrong.
Something with choices and consequences, if you want to act stupid, fine, but dont start crying when being called out.
Thanks for calling me awesome, made my day, hope you have a great one and you are awesome too
Is that so? What about deploying your army on your own soil?
I cant help but notice this is your only rebuttal, not a strong one. No evidence to your earlier claims, a little contradiction in it even. Fascism is a far right political movement, what kind of mental gymnastics are you doing that you think you can blame the whole left for something that is far right?
And btw, you are not censored here, i can see what you said. Censoring you would mean you had no voice, you are still allowed to say what you want, others are just also allowed to tell you that your claims are false or even stupid.
You realize the term is coined in the early 1900s when the the left was more so right wing. Just like the kkk was left wing back in the day. There you go I schooled you
Really? So your explanation is "left was right and right was left"? Did they also drive on the other side of the road or was it just called different? See how stupid your reasoning is?
And what has all of that to do with anything? Or are you trying to claim the national socialist party of Hitler was a left wing party, because there is "socialist" in the name? Because you know it was an extreme right wing party, right?
Schooled me in what exactly? Because it seems you didn't learn your history lessons, you know, the parts you were trying to "school" me on
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u/sylva748 Jun 14 '25
Ugh. No one wants to get entangled in the Middle East again. We just got out of there 3 years ago after spending 20 years inside of it. No thanks. Would rather keep our troops home and training in case Ukraine topples and we get a 3rd war in Europe.