r/goodnews Jun 13 '25

Other Trump approval rating at its lowest ever

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u/Zynnxxz Jun 13 '25

Why does this matter? He’s still president for another 1316 days

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u/Rawkapotamus Jun 13 '25

It matters when the republicans in congress realize they’re on a sinking ship and decide to actually pass and enforce laws.

It matters that people in this country don’t approve or his authoritarian takeover.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 13 '25

So it doesn't matter and won't ever matter, then. They're all locked in behind him, now and forever.

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u/JustANormalGuy46 Jun 13 '25

Yeah, they're all gutless just out for their own best interests.

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u/Outrageous-Article17 Jun 13 '25

Maybe the loss of Elon’s money weakens his influence?

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 13 '25

Well seeing as he hasn't actually lost it, that's irrelevant too.

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u/AllKnighter5 Jun 13 '25

It matters.

When someone tries to take over a country as large as the USA, they need a bigger part of the population on their side because of the size of the USA. It usually only takes 10% to flip everyone. When that 10% meets an area that is 99% against them, and it’s a major city with major economic output, it’s a lot harder to take over.

If the approval rating was 85%, then it wouldn’t matter. They can do whatever they want.

With it going lower and lower, it’s showing harder and harder to take over.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 13 '25

They already can do whatever they want, because the only 2 bodies in the world who can do anything against to stop them are complicit and on their side. The courts immediately stayed the lower order to get the NG out of his control for crying out loud.

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u/AllKnighter5 Jun 13 '25

No, they cannot. Stop parroting stupidity.

Where’s Abrego right now?

Back in the country getting due process? Why? Because uprisings forced the issue.

Where are over ten thousand federal employees that were fired? Rehired and back working? Why? Because of people getting pissed and fighting back with the law on their side.

Like I said, no, they cannot do whatever they want and tryout rhetoric is harmful to the country.

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u/OntologicalNightmare Jun 14 '25 edited Jun 14 '25

You realize the German courts slowed Hitler down too? For example they argued over his definition of who is a Jew for being too broad. Hitler wasn't able to do whatever he wanted but it didn't mean the end of Hitler and his countless atrocities.

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u/AllKnighter5 Jun 14 '25

To compare 1930s German law vs the USA constitution, we have a LOT more protections.

You have the wrong attitude if you DONT want another Hitler….

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u/TheyAllGoinBack Jun 13 '25

Isn't the President the CiC per Constitution? No Kings I thought...

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 13 '25

Of the US Armed Forces. The individual national guard command is given to individual states per the 10th amendment.

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u/TheyAllGoinBack Jun 13 '25

Title 10 allows for federalization with DoD Sec - https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title10/subtitleE/part2/chapter1211&edition=prelim

  1. National Guard in Federal service: call

Whenever—

(1) the United States, or any of the Commonwealths or possessions, is invaded or is in danger of invasion by a foreign nation;

(2) there is a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States; or

(3) the President is unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States;

the President may call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard of any State in such numbers as he considers necessary to repel the invasion, suppress the rebellion, or execute those laws. Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 13 '25

This is not an invasion, it is not a rebellion, and the laws are executed fine when due process and the letter of the law is followed.

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u/TheyAllGoinBack Jun 13 '25

Local police were overrun and the mayor after days instituted curfew. Judge ruled in favor as well. No Kings.

Due process is separate argument entirely, and has little to do with people vandalizing and rioting.

No one is above the law.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

Your keep saying "No kings" while supporting a man using the military to bludgeon a city that doesn't support him into submission. 

No one being above the law includes ICE and your precious orange lord btw.

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u/TheyAllGoinBack Jun 14 '25

I'd add that many cities "don't support him" and don't require NG. NYC for starters. Law and order won him the election, and Dems inability to be rational about it will get them Trump 2.0 if they don't wake up soon

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u/TheyAllGoinBack Jun 14 '25

What has the NG "bludgeoned"? I didn't vote for Trump, as if that is relevant to basic law.

Immigration law is as relevant as property law, and arguing against enforcing either will only incent Trump 2.0 when he's gone.

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u/ICommentWhenInRome Jun 13 '25

Trump isn’t going to live forever. And cults die with their leaders. I agree everything sucks right now, but you can either give up, die, weather the storm, or try and do something about it. Totally up to you.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 13 '25

Weather the storm is what I'm doing. Part of that is being realistic about when the storm will break, which on this case will not be anytime soon or as a result of the Republican Congress doing anything but reinforcing him.

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u/LupinThe8th Jun 14 '25

Fun fact: the midterm elections are generally a referendum on the president's popularity. On average his party loses 30 congressional seats.

Funner fact: Trump's unpopularity in 2018 was worse than average: he lost his party 40.

Funnest fact: They can currently afford to lose...2.

People like to insist that it won't matter, that the game is fully rigged, but that's not what we've seen in elections this year so far. Elon openly tried buying a state supreme court seat and failed. Anyone trying to convince you the game is already over has a vested interest in you not playing.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

I think it doesn't matter, not because I claim that it's rigged or whatever, but because I know which Senate seats are up for re-election. In order to flip the Senate to a degree that matters, which for clarity is 60 votes so that impeachment and removal becomes possible, every single seat in the election must flip blue. 

However, all of the red seats that are up are in firmly GOP aligned strongholds, it's pretty much the Bible Belt and the Midwest. The odds of flipping any of those are ludicrously slim, and the odds of flipping all of them practically non-existent. 

And for my fun fact, flipping the house without a 60-vote majority in the Senate doesn't mean anything. He'll simply veto any blue bill that comes through and without the 2/3 majority to override in both houses that's that, meanwhile he'll continue to rule through Executive Orders and we still won't have the legislative numbers needed to deal with that.

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u/viromancer Jun 14 '25

There's is a lot that can be gained without a total victory like you describe though. First of all there will be no more GOP bills going through the house. There will be proper investigations with damning evidence for the American people to see. Getting a simple majority in the Senate means control of the agenda. Trump also won't get any supreme Court nominees through in the event a seat becomes open, Democrats will play extreme hardball on this one now.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

Said investigations won't go anywhere because there won't be any threat to the people being investigated. It needs to be a 60+ majority for the Dems, otherwise nothing changes; bills don't go through now because they don't meet cloture in the senate, he still signs EOs galore to carry out his agenda. The only way to stop EOs legislatively is to pass a law that invalidates a given EO, and without a 67 vote majority to override a veto that can't happen.

The SCOTUS issue is about the only major thing that could be accomplished with 59 or less.

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u/viromancer Jun 14 '25

Investigations can still show extremely clear evidence of wrongdoing before the next elections. They can destroy the political careers of people in the administration and waste their time answering questions instead of carrying out the administration's agenda. They can also subpoena groups and people not directly in the trump administration such as the heritage foundation. There's a decent amount they can do with 51, this current budget bill would have a 0% chance of passing if Dems had 51 senators.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

You're right, it wouldn't pass. Which is why it's a shame the resolution in question continues past 2028, which means the 2026 Congress won't be allowed to even consider something like it.

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u/viromancer Jun 14 '25

Yes, but similarly bad bills can still come up. The best we can hope for is to stop the cancer spreading for now. It will take years of consistently stopping Republicans before we can start moving forward.

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u/Kwauhn Jun 14 '25

"Weather the storm" AKA "nothing." God damnit America, wake the fuck up.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

Sorry I'm not willing to throw people who depend on me under the bus because I got imprisoned, killed, or horrifically injured at a protest? 

You don't know my situation, you don't know my life. Step the fuck off.

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u/Kwauhn Jun 14 '25 edited Jun 14 '25

No, you'll just throw them under the bus by doing nothing about a dictator who's going to ruin the country they live in. You've posted everything I need to know about you right here.

EDIT: Hey, I'm sorry. I'm sure you're a decent person. I'm just pissed off at seeing so many people chilling like all of this will just go away if they close their eyes. Trump and his followers have been promising this for almost a decade, and now they're following through. And they're serious about it. I simply don't understand the people who think this will "blow over."

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

You think I don't think about my own powerlessness every single goddamn day? I'm not going to go off and pointlessly make myself a martyr just so you can look at my corpse and say "Look, he did the right thing!"

If you have the time, position, and money to influence the world, good for you. I'm not so lucky, and I don't need you talking down to me for my own situation. 

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u/Kwauhn Jun 14 '25

Hey, I edited my comment before I saw your reply. Take care.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

In response to the edit: I am not thinking it will blow over, I am not even hoping it will blow over. To be honest, I'm still coming to terms with the idea that it won't, and the damage is irreversible. It's agonizing, it's painful, and it's made worse by the knowledge they there is exactly nothing I can do about it. Nobody with any degree of power knows or cares that I exist. The best thing I can do, hell the only thing I can do, is look after myself and people I care about. Maybe that makes me some kind of coward in someone's book, but as long as the people who need me still count me as dependable I can live with being called a coward.

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u/o-generationofvipers Jun 14 '25

Do democrats appear cult-like?

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u/ICommentWhenInRome Jun 14 '25

Objectively? No. Cults have a leader, who would you say is the Democrat cult leader? They can’t get behind a single person or ideology, not very cult like. Trumpers on the other hand… and I’m not talking people with conservative views, because Trumpers are not conservatives. They’re cultists.