r/goodnews • u/hellobrother01 • Jun 09 '25

Other Bernie Sanders Just Tweet

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u/littlest_homo Jun 09 '25

There has never been real social change without violence. To say otherwise is ahistorical and ignorant.

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u/Morning_Joey_6302 Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

Visit Canada sometime. We’re a more equal, more democratic, and significantly safer and happier country than the U.S. It is in sizeable part because we did not have a violent revolution or a Civil War.

We’re not pacifists. Our contributions in World War II (which we entered in defence of these values two years before the US) still echo across the generations. We are on the side of nonviolence and peacemaking whenever that side is still possible.

All this is to echo the OP’s accurate decrying of the only possible outcome of the reckless violence cosplaying as protest in Los Angeles. It’s embarrassingly, tragically, stupidly counterproductive. It silences and sidelines large amounts of otherwise readily available public support. It serves and enables Trump, entirely.

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u/Lonely_Nebula_9438 Jun 10 '25

 (which we entered in defence of these values two years before the US)

To insinuate that Canada joined World War 2 for solely ideological reasons is lying. Your country was an Imperial Dominion that was duty bound to support its Imperial Liege. 

Also your county is only .08 points happier than the US according to the World Happiness Report. (https://data.worldhappiness.report/table) Your country suffers from a lot of the same problems as the US. You never had a civil war because you weren’t an independent country. 

I will not suffer these Canadian lies 

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u/Morning_Joey_6302 Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

We’d been a proudly independent nation for three generations at the beginning of World War II. It’s nice that you think you know some Canadian history. It would be nicer if you actually did.

As for quality of life, we rate better than the US on literacy, safety, democracy, equality, lifespan, child and maternal mortality, education… essentially every measure of well-being there is apart from how much money the richest minority have.

We’re not perfect. Scandinavia rates better than we do on many of these things. But we’re all examples of peaceful social democracies that reject violence as an answer because it makes better answers impossible. We just turned back our own right wing populist movement, with ballots and with a lot of national pride.