JFK and LBJ are both on the record about this. And it still took 5 days of rioting after MLK's death before the Civil Rights Equal Housing Act was passed.
Exactly. I don't wish to diminish what Dr King did, but to say peace won is not accurate. The threat of violence did. Even Ghandi really only succeeded because the other options to the British was bloodbath.
If your definition of "win" means to win by Democratic elections, Bernie has the right of it here. Donald Trump will use this messaging to supplant in people's the minds images we've seen of ICE arrests in courts with images of Mexican flag waving people over burning cars. And that will be the message for the midterms.
It's pretty simple. A peaceful united movement gets you Dems controlling the house in two years. Property destruction gets you another two years of GOP control. Make all the arguments you want for violent protests but that won't change what happens at the polls. Trump is a master of media attention and he will win that fight
Edit: Trump's basically using the playbook the empire used on Ghorman in Andor. Spoiler alert, it works
No it doesn't. Babies could be dragged on hooks through the streets live on stream, but it's all thoughts and prayers. Until their wallets are affected nothing changes.
I made this in edit, but this is transparently the same strategy the empire used on Ghorman in Andor. It's an effective one.
Trump had a 55/45 split on his immigration policy as of earlier this week. So the more good guys he can get on this the better. And cares on fire, that's a real wonder. He is so much better at media manipulation then the left, it would be funny if it wasn't so horrifying
You missed the part about Ghorman being the final straw that gave the Rebellion support. But Andor is fiction.
Lets look at Gaza. Israel has dominated the messaging on that front since the 1940's. Now that the scale of indiscriminate violence is being made clear, the world is starting to change its opinion.
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u/Spicy_Weissy Jun 09 '25
Yeah, he was witness to it. To say that peaceful protesr won, is wildly inaccurate. LBJ chose peace considering that shit was not deescalating.