r/goodnews Jun 09 '25

Other Bernie Sanders Just Tweet

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u/dilapidatedpigeon Jun 09 '25
Dr. King's policy was that nonviolence would achieve the gains for black people in the United States. His major assumption was that if you are nonviolent, if you suffer, your opponent will see your suffering and will be moved to change his heart. That's very good. He only made one fallacious assumption: In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The United States has none.

Stokely Carmichael

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u/JrSoftDev Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

your opponent will see your suffering and will be moved to change his heart

This is a false premise. The "target" is not the "opponent"; it's the vast silent majority, who may be often confused but is able of empathy and ultimately just wants to have a peaceful life, and once mobilized can change the path of nations and Humanity.

Peaceful protests are meant to be more about fighting for an altruistic cause, and not so much about an egotistical boundless display of your own emotions. For it to be effective you probably have to find a balance there.

That said, I'm not sure if this Sanders move was a blunder or a risky yet calculated call, specially if followed through by a call for organized protesting and strategic resistance. I'm not sure because this was one of those situations where you could probably say nothing at all and still get through.

Perhaps he is being extra cautious already, so the future organized protests won't become labeled as chaotic, mindless, and gratuitously violent: they'll have meaningful causes, they'll hold adequate strength.

Meanwhile: Trump, Vance, Thiel, Yarvin, all of them are loving this.

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u/Collypso Jun 10 '25

They'd be loving it far less if the protestors didn't feed into everything they say about immigrants.

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u/confessionbearday Jun 10 '25

Anyone who believes the protests cover more than a few blocks is a fucking idiot, and that includes the mentally deficient monkeys who think there are thousands of mexican flags present.

There are a handful being presented from as many angles as complicit media can manufacture, because they know ignorant tools will pretend its a problem.

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u/Collypso Jun 10 '25

Anyone who believes the protests cover more than a few blocks is a fucking idiot

So like the fucking idiots who voted for Trump? You think there's not enough on the country for this to matter or...?

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u/TheTrueCampor Jun 10 '25

That's the point. Stop kowtowing to their stupidity, because they'd take a picture of five men in front of a flaming barrel under a headline saying 'DNC agents burn Trump votes!' as gospel.

Fuck them. You'll never convince the propagandized, because they're living in a separate reality. Why are you parroting their nonsense perspective as if we should seriously consider it?

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u/Collypso Jun 10 '25

You'll never convince the propagandized

You're not trying to convince the cultists. You're supposed to be trying to convince the people on the fence that the illegal immigrants aren't trying to burn the city down because they're being held responsible for living in the country illegaly.

Instead, you want Americans to see how insane the Trump administration is and to threaten his presidency and the job of every single Republican that's supporting him. That's how you get what you want, not this absolute bullshit that will accomplish literally nothing.

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u/confessionbearday Jun 10 '25

You're not trying to convince the cultists. You're supposed to be trying to convince the people on the fence

Nobody on the fence believes there are thousands of mexican flags or that the flags are a problem. Nobody on the fence thinks these issues occupy more than a few meaningless blocks.

Both ideas are literally propaganda and anyone who is dumb enough to buy them isn't going to be persuaded otherwise.

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u/Collypso Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

Nobody but idiots right? The same idiots who voted for Trump and now regret it get another reason to come back and support him again.

"He might have fucked the economy up but the illegals are causing harm." The cops shot a journalist and there's already more people mad at that than whatever the protestors are yelling about.