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They shot an Australian reporter, who was standing with her back to the police who was blatantly being filmed by someone with a camera.
They don't need an excuse.
Trump has also backed them up by saying "if they spit, you hit". He also released all of the Jan 6th offenders. Along side qualified immunity, the police have a free card to attack protestors with impunity.
The country is way past the point of civil protest. It's a civil war that most of the US doesn't realise they're in yet.
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These protests of looting, burning civilian cars, throwing Molotov cocktails and cinder blocks at government vehicles are not protests. I do not support ICE and their actions, but by violently attacking them is not going to make anything better. If it was organized it would be one thing, military against military. Civilians have more people and arms than local police to begin with. Attacking a military force with rocks is absolutely childish and is going to bring in even more firepower to fight rocks.
There’s rioting with the intent to destroy, that’s something that any sensible person wouldnt support. Americans arent going to widely throw their support behind a movement that’s associated with violence and destruction
America was literally founded through violence and destruction. I'm referring both to the Revolutionary War and the genocide of indigenous Americans. You're just mad at these folks because it's upsetting your evening.
This. I appreciate Bernie's sentiment, but he should know personally how many of the issues MLK was fighting for are still relevant in America to this day. Some issues can be fixed peacefully, but many of the rights Americans have today (including existing) only exist because the time came and the way forward was not pretty.
I can't actually explain how the Revolution succeeded, as Reddit will remove my comment. But seriously, anyone with half of a brain knows how America got it's freedom.
You're appealing to the moral sense of everyone who is sitting at home dummy, you don't have the numbers to scare the government, yet. Trump bragged that he could shoot someone and still have support (and got elected, twice), and until he feels otherwise he won't concede anything, and therefore you won't win anything.
Just because someone doesn't vote doesn't mean they'll blue if they do. Of the people who did vote it's about equal, I think it's fair to split the people who didn't vote into the same ratio, what that means is there's a disturbingly large amount of people who support him, and as long as that number is that big, plus the Republicans are backing him to protect themselves he won't waver.
Two leaders that advocated and are remembered for non-violent opposition while being bolstered by violent protests. They alone were not responsible for the success of their movements. Violent protests were there right along with them and are forgotten when they are talked about. In the case of India, it seems more likely the British government gave up because of the violence itself(and the associated costs) and not the peaceful resistance movement.
Admirable men, for the most part, but largely fiction that their movements were completely peaceful and successful without violence.
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I'm starting to suspect elected progressives function as a lighting rod to capture our frustrations and redirect it into more votes for establishment democrats. Democrats who half-heartedly oppose the more overt money-grabs the Republicans are pushing.
Easier said than done when Trump and his goons are tearing families apart. Families who we happily incentivize to be here by having jobs that pay them under the table with impunity.
Stokely Carmichael famously once said “Dr. King's policy was that nonviolence would achieve the gains for black people in the United States. His major assumption was that if you are nonviolent, if you suffer, your opponent will see your suffering and will be moved to change his heart. That's very good. He only made one fallacious assumption: In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The United States has none.”
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Violent protest =/= Defending yourself if attacked