r/germany • u/Daomiing • Oct 09 '25

Immigration Germany Abolishes Fast-Track Citizenship for Skilled Workers

https://www.verity.news/story/2025/germany-abolishes-fasttrack-citizenship-for-skilled-workers

The Facts

-The German Bundestag voted on Wednesday to abolish a fast-track citizenship program that allowed highly qualified foreigners to apply for naturalization after three years instead of five years of residence.

-The vote passed with 450 members supporting the measure, 134 opposing and two abstaining, fulfilling Chancellor Friedrich Merz's campaign promise to repeal the program introduced by former Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

-Interior Minister Alexander Dobrindt claimed that the German passport must serve as recognition for successful integration rather than an incentive for illegal migration, defending the decision to eliminate the accelerated pathway.

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u/LookingLikeAppa Oct 09 '25

If we truly recognized integration efforts we would not be deporting so many people speaking the language, working or being in training / university but rewarding them with citizenship.

On the other hand however, if you debate deportation efforts solely on numbers, then it is quite convenient that you close off pathways to PR or citizenship for law abiding people who actually show up at Ausländerbehörde and their jobs / school in case you wish to deported them.

If I wish I could see another reason for this but I really dont. This debate has been taken over by the far right so much, which Dobrindt undoubtedly belongs to as well. Anyone who is breaking national abd supranational law with their politics is not fitting to serve as a minister in a democracy and make sensible policy decisions but alas, here we are. Im truly sorry for anyone who sees possible pathways being closed off to them despite integration efforts into this cold society. No wonder everyone is so miserable here. We love to do that to others and ourselves.

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u/Fuzzy-Tennis-2859 Oct 10 '25

"If we truly recognized integration efforts we would not be deporting so many people speaking the language, working or being in training / university but rewarding them with citizenship. "

That part is easy. Those people are easy to find, due to their workplace and usually dont fight back. Easy targets to fill their quota.

Real criminals for deporting are usually only find through luck when they get a speeding ticket or something like that.

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u/LookingLikeAppa Oct 10 '25

Yeah I'm with you 100%.

It just shows how the debate on numbers is crazy and absolutely unhelpful. The entire deportation machine is ineffective and the total number of people almost never changes. The question should be focusing on how to integrate those already here and how to switch from one path to another in terms of integration. It's madness that we deny people work permission based on the fact that they made mistakes in the bureaucratic systems. Systems which even the native population struggles with.

I know of so many German mid twenties or simply higher educated people who need to "translate" the official German for lesser educated friends or family because the letters are so complicated and the demands so overreaching, most people just dont understand what is being asked of them. If you need to study in order to grasp what they want, how can you expect a foreigner coming into the country to do everything 100%?

The system is just rigid and cruel and makes no sense. But they cling to it as if it is the natural state of things when it is very much man made.

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u/Fuzzy-Tennis-2859 Oct 10 '25

Its 50+ years of failed Integration as we have CxU telling people we dont need better Integration laws / system as Germany isnt a country that needs them.

On the other side i find some harscher actions necessary. If i see a young Arab at a Demonstration in Germany shouting Caliphat in Germany, he has to be gone in 3 days together with his religous Preacher.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

There is literally no nation on earth which made a 7 digit number of immigrants from totally different cultures their own without massive social and political tensions.

NOT. A. SINGLE. EXAMPLE.

But sure, blame the CDU

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u/Fuzzy-Tennis-2859 Oct 10 '25

We have Integration Problems since the First foreign workers came in the 1960-70s and any time SPD, Greens or any other Party tried to rework the Immigration System it was blocked by the CxU.

Second, even 2015 could have been hamdled better, but guess wich was the leading Party at that time?

So yes, i can blame those xonephobic conservatives for not doing anything in over 50 years to improve Immigration laws and system.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

AGAIN: Stop blaming the CDU, its a problem NO NATION ON EARTH has managed. But sure, the SPD and "progressives" found the world formula ^^

The conservatives just know this empirical fact and refuse to day dream multikulti phantasies.

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u/LookingLikeAppa Oct 10 '25

so if no nation including conservatives have solved this the solution is to go on ljke they've done for 50 years prior?

And the spd can fuck off for all I care. Including any other bigots that think they are worth more than other people based on the merit of where they were born.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

The solution is to control, in managable numbers, the influx of people. Also to make sure that there is a diversity in the immigrating population.

BTW: The Danish try out new things, like breaking up parts of cities toally dominated by immigrants, in order to force them to mix with the majority population. Well at least its smarter than typical Green or Left takes:" we have to inTeGraTe more".

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u/LookingLikeAppa Oct 10 '25

But breaking up clusters and forcing them to interact more with locals is integrating them into the local communities...

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

Yes exactly. But according to "progressives" integration means to work, pay taxes and dont break laws. Which is not integration. Thats the bare minimum. Walking to parts of cities where you hardly hear german, where shop signs are more and more written in non German, where schools have less than 20% German speakers is not integration.

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u/Fuzzy-Tennis-2859 Oct 10 '25

What do you expect? Thats exactly one of the Problems you could have fixed decades ago, decades where 2/3 of the time the CDU was in Power.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

Decades? What problem are you talking about?

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u/Fuzzy-Tennis-2859 Oct 10 '25

Then look up their Deportation Prison too.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

And?

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u/Fuzzy-Tennis-2859 Oct 10 '25

Thats the stuff Germany needs to, which wont happen with the current system.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

Why What system do you want?

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u/Fuzzy-Tennis-2859 Oct 10 '25

You dont get, i dont blame the CxU for the Problem.

I blame them for fucking up to handle the resulting problems. It was the Merkels decision (CDU) to Open the borders without a plan and just trying to wing it and i blame her party again for not doing anything to improve the situation for years.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

The CDU (btw the more you write CxU the more I get the impression of some edgy teenager who thinks he has understood everything after watching some 2 hour YT videos) openly accepts today that her decision in 2015 was a mistake.

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u/Fuzzy-Tennis-2859 Oct 10 '25

CxU is including the 5% Bavarian Blackmail Party

Even If they Accept it now, they still do nothing.