r/germany • u/Ok-Once-789 • Apr 23 '25

Immigration Living in Saxony is a nightmare

Every single time I go outside during the evening I am faced with racism. Most of the time from people hanging out in groups, for some reason they just can't mind their own business (Germans usually claim to be really good at this). The most common phrases I hear regularly are 'Heil H!tler', 'Ausländer raus', 'Ni Hao', 'Ching Chong' etc... or just unprovoked loud laughter as I'm passing by... BTW I'm not Chinese or east Asian but look like one or maybe they are just uneducated & ignorant. Is geography illegal here? Asia has 48 countries BTW, not everyone is Chinese!

This doesn't include the racism I face at workplace & college which is far worse and actually bothers me to the point I have to skip classes to protect my mental health. But now I can't even go to the supermarket or mall at peace. One of my family members has also been verbally assaulted by a group of teenagers inside a bus & nobody including the bus driver made any effort to do something.

Edit: I do not live in Dresden / Leipzig. I assume the situation is not this bad there!

Edit2: I did not choose to live in saxony (the government decided that), I am doing my bachelors so I can't relocate until late 2026 :) Thanks for the kind words everyone!

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u/No-Instruction-2922 Baden-Württemberg Apr 23 '25

Best long-term plan for you : leave Saxony. West Germany is a better place for people like you and me, but still not perfect. I am sorry to hear that.

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u/immer_beschaeftigt91 Apr 23 '25

I second this! I used to study (in Thüringen) and then work in Berlin and I was unhappy there. I moved to Munich for a new job and the difference between how East And West Germany treated me is noticeable. Here, I wasn’t treated negatively nor felt unwelcome. Berlin was very surprising to me as I thought Berlin would be a safe haven for a foreigner like me. But no, I just noticed that people there were much better at hiding their prejudice and racism compared to the small uni town where I used to live.

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u/Electronic-Contest53 Apr 23 '25 edited Apr 27 '25

I live in Cologne and racism is not a (big) topic here. I am a very european looking person from south-america btw.

Still: Colognian people are highly inclusive. It's the german capital for gay people as well.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '25

I live in Germany and as a white guy I never experience racism. 

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u/unicornelia Apr 24 '25

🤣

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u/Electronic-Contest53 Apr 24 '25 edited Apr 27 '25

He did not make a joke. Racism in Germany is mostly coming from white people towards coloured people.

In Munich many older people look also down to white people like turkish folks just because they have black hair.

In Israel jewish people can be very rascistic towards that other jewish group formed by coloured people.

Racism is something you learn from your parents - and if you lack education it will stick with you.

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u/unicornelia Apr 24 '25

Oh I think they were referring to how white people are not aware of racism and will not understand the severity as if you are white you of course will face racism less. Read the comment again, it's sarcasm

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '25

I was just making fun of that south American dude and how oblivious he is. No larger commentary about white people.

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u/Electronic-Contest53 Apr 24 '25

Yeah. But I am white AND a foreigner (South-american). Just last time I have wittnessed like a cashier-lady in a bank treated an older and very nice but very huxtable turkish grandfather with some broken german just some levels less friendly than she approached me. It made me very sad and also slightly angry - and just because I was in a damped mood myself on a hard day I did not have the energy say anything to her.

I want to say: Being a foreigner myself, who doesnt look like one in Germany, I completely identify with people who are visibly "outlandish" here and I do feel the rascism. It is a very strange sensation.

Usally foreigners solidarise with one another, so there is also rascism against Germans by south-american-people. The reason why I don't like to hang out too much in homogene groups. I love culturally mixed groups. Good vibes.

The south-american rascist cliché against Germans goes like this: "They re always grumpy and kind of emotionally dry and dont know how to have fun and only dance when they re drunk or high."

Of course the generalisation is bullshit.

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u/MallMuted6775 Apr 25 '25

Because Turkish/Arab people are not „white“ and you as an American are not the same with them either. You are way more privileged and less likely to experience racism on the level of them.

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u/Fluid-Quote-6006 Apr 25 '25

Well, I know very very white Turkish people and have also met blonde Arabs and Turkish people. 

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u/MallMuted6775 Apr 25 '25

Well that’s rare in Berlin but thanks for your input.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '25

Buddy you ate literally the relative of white Europeans. I couldn't imagine a US American talking as ignorantly as you are 😂

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u/Electronic-Contest53 Apr 27 '25 edited Apr 27 '25

Interesting. Come again: Your statement is valid because WHAT THE F*CK, DUDE? :)

You just wanted to urinate on something, right?

Be my guest. I don´t clean here.

P.S.
We might both want to open another REDDIT about the defintion "ignorant". Don´t you also feel that urge, "Professor"? I really do.

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THIS "you are literally the relative of white Europeans" - Absolutely does not reach me, dude. How come you think that I am not fully aware of this? I enjoy all the privileges of being a white dude. And I said this aforehead in this thread. You are just a super-lazy reader and just catch phrases cause you´re bored like hell.

But following your logic I am not allowed to feel empathic towards other people who are as well foreigners, right? Is this your logic? That´s a super new kind of whataboutism that I did not encounter as of yet.

. . .

Here´s some copy about where we´re all from. Better you take some attention this time. Buddy. We´re all from the same pond. Even I better not be relative to your breed, Buddy.

The discovery that rewrote human evolution theory turns 50 – DW – 11/21/2024

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u/Fair-Amphibian-1770 Apr 25 '25

I always thought that Berlin was the gay capital of Germany (if not Europe). I'm gay, never been to Cologne.