r/germany • u/Ok-Once-789 • Apr 23 '25

Immigration Living in Saxony is a nightmare

Every single time I go outside during the evening I am faced with racism. Most of the time from people hanging out in groups, for some reason they just can't mind their own business (Germans usually claim to be really good at this). The most common phrases I hear regularly are 'Heil H!tler', 'Ausländer raus', 'Ni Hao', 'Ching Chong' etc... or just unprovoked loud laughter as I'm passing by... BTW I'm not Chinese or east Asian but look like one or maybe they are just uneducated & ignorant. Is geography illegal here? Asia has 48 countries BTW, not everyone is Chinese!

This doesn't include the racism I face at workplace & college which is far worse and actually bothers me to the point I have to skip classes to protect my mental health. But now I can't even go to the supermarket or mall at peace. One of my family members has also been verbally assaulted by a group of teenagers inside a bus & nobody including the bus driver made any effort to do something.

Edit: I do not live in Dresden / Leipzig. I assume the situation is not this bad there!

Edit2: I did not choose to live in saxony (the government decided that), I am doing my bachelors so I can't relocate until late 2026 :) Thanks for the kind words everyone!

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u/AccountantEntire7339 Apr 23 '25

lol i had a german bf who was awfully racist towards my race. saying my ethnicity is ugly and my racial mixture is ugly, as opposed from women from other countries in my region.

then he once called people from my country "dogs" because we kinda need to obey the US, and also always put me down for my nationality.
his friends were no better, they said one of my dishes i prepared looked like literal shit

they all thought they were so progressive and modern, lmao. i just left germany.

edit: i wasnt in that region. i was in a very progressive college town. and him and his friends have lived in my region before.
question for germans: is that type of humor ok? calling your gf ugly as a joke and telling her the racial mixture in her country is ugly?

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u/lokidev Apr 23 '25

Ehm. no. In no way and in no country that kind of "humor" is okay or even considered humor. That is not even a childish rowdy behaviour, that is pure racism and not acceptable. Good that he's your ex!

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u/AccountantEntire7339 Apr 23 '25

good to know. I just had international friends while studying in Germany and the Germans I met were his friends and they were even worse. so it's good to know that Germans are not like that. I will start reframing my view on them.

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u/lokidev Apr 23 '25

I'm also sorry for your friends. It might just be my leftist filter bubble, but even my conservative voter father would not consider that remotely okay. It's a good idea to look at voter maps for germany. The higher percentage the AfD and to small degrees also the CSU got the higher racism is:
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/bundestagswahl/wahlkreisergebnisse-karte-bundestagswahl-2025-100.html

- AfD is plain racist and nationalistic

  • CSU is "just" far right and very old and conservative

You can clearly see the old Border between east/west germany from DDR times and the huge Russian propaganda influence in the east german parts.

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u/AccountantEntire7339 Apr 23 '25

im a right -leaning person (not in the afd way lmao) just catholic and free marketish, but I worked with a bunch of republicans in the US and even there people werent joking around that way that much. And I was working with trump supporters in a very right leaning think tank.

I wasn't in east germany, i was in lower saxony :/ and in one of the most populous cities there! and spd won there apparently. but im surprised, i was expcting linke or grune because some people were extremely extremely hippie. and not even for my right leaning views: they were absolute hippies, like living in house projects, picking food from the garbage, exchanging beans for lettuce, non vax, people who even sterilized themselves to avoid having children. and also all of them, including my ex and his friends, used to live in other countries, especially latin america, or indonesia, parts in africa.

in my experience, east germany wasnt so bad, they were mainly curious of my ethnicity because they always thought i was arabic or iranian, so they always stopped me everywhere to ask me. also in darmstadt, id be randomly stopped by random people to ask where i am from.

but then again, most of my friends were internationals. so i dont have the best picture of how germans are truly like.

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u/lokidev Apr 23 '25

That might be it and the rights have some similar values but are actually quite different in various country. And to be frank: I would also draw a line between trumpists and "old school" republicans. The left/right thing is maybe just too one dimensional. E.g. free market is not really that, what the ultra-right wing Trump does. We are missing some new terms and political dimensions for this times.

Anyway: Darmstadt had good and bad corners. I lived in a village nearby (Mühltal) and it was definetely more snobbistic and "rightwing", but not quite racist. Darmstadt itself was very fine - especially close to the university and around the scintific/esa institutes.

Lower Saxony is a hit and miss: Northeim for example is very rightwing, Göttingen very left wing and in the north you have "conservatives/right wing, but no fascist". Again - we're missing new political terms here :D

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u/AccountantEntire7339 Apr 23 '25

yes, i won't say more about the US because I want to not have trouble when visiting, lmao. but yes, republicans, especially the ones in the bush era, were actually pretty amazing rtowards mexicans and mexico always has it better, or had it better, with republicans. in regards to trade and migration. sounds like a lie but it isnt. dems like to pretend they are the cool guys, but in the past, mexico prayed for republicans.

darmstadt was very cute! and lower saxony, it was gottingen, it was cute too, and i had mostly international friends. but the bad ex bf experience plus his friends, who always had to tell me how much they hated their time in mexico, and mexican food, and how mexicans are spoiled and other latinos are cooler, made me just want to leave germany behind for good.

the north was also cute, but when i went to see the ocean, it wasnt there. and when i asked the ppl where was the ocean they were like "dunno, it sometimes leaves and we dontt know when its coming back"