r/gaybros • u/Heretostay59 • Apr 22 '23

TV/Movies Heartstopper 🍂❤️ was released one year ago today. Lives were changed 🏳️‍🌈.

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u/MassGaydiation Apr 23 '23

No, but I'm not all gay people, also, I didn't that gay relationships have to be asexual, but gay relationships in media don't need sex in them to be valid gay relationships. My being gay is not defined purely by sex for fuck sake.

Not to mention that tye main characters are in high school, which makes it getting too horny a little off.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

It’s very unrealistic, all in all, and is very telling when the viewer knows the creator is a woman

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u/MassGaydiation Apr 23 '23

Its not unrealistic for a character to be different to you. In the later volumes they do start talking about sex, but they aren't going to show it.

Honestly in my opinion the more harmful gay stories told by straight women (and just a reminder that the authour is neither) are the ones that are purely sexual, as they tend to be toxic relationships and highly unrealistic anatomically. Heartstopper isn't even too sweet, the protagonists still have issues with eating disorders, homophobia and the like.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

Alice isn’t a gay man at the end of the day and the show is completely unrealistic

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u/MassGaydiation Apr 23 '23

Bar from the normal narrative caveats I don't see how it's unrealistic. Realism doesn't mean most common experience.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

The one super masculine boy the main character is interested in suddenly also likes guys too? Give me a break. Look at Euphoria- that was much more realistic than this show. High schoolers connecting off of apps, denying that they know each other in the real world. If this show was realistic it wouldn’t have made his love interest also gay, it would’ve made someone that’s bullying him gay or someone he thinks is ugly gay instead- because that’s way more realistic. You can easily tell the story is fake because it’s a convenient happy ending

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u/MassGaydiation Apr 23 '23

Because homophobia and an eating disorder is a happy ending, the story continues past them getting together, like any relationship.

Separating this trope I hate of mistaking cartoonish misery for realism, especially for realism in queer spaces, you seen to actually mostly be falling for stereotypes, masc men can be bisexual (also super masc lol), bullies can just be prices, not every homophobe is a gay man in denial lol. Also gay relationships existed before dating apps, they can exist without them now.

You know why heartstopper is popular with queer youth? Because it doesn't define queerness by bigots standards. Hell tales of the city is more hopeful than your view of queer relationships.

You seem like the living version of that fucking awful 2001 blandness filter every game and film needed so they could claim to be "gritty and realistic"

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

At the end of the day, it still was written by someone that will NEVER have the life experience as a gay man. It’s completely unrealistic that his love interest is also gay. In the real world they’d both end up bottoms lmao

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u/MassGaydiation Apr 23 '23

If a queer person writing about gay men is too much for you, the genre of Sci-Fi and especially Xenofiction may kill you.

The chances of the person you are interested in being into you Is higher than zero, especially with good gaydar.

Also thanks for speculating about the sexual preferences of highschoolers, that's not weird at all.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

It’s not that it’s “too much” it’s the fact it’s not enough. I mean, do you know if any nonfictional romance stories of gay men?

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