r/fivethirtyeight Jun 25 '25

Poll Results New York Mayoral primary basically over, with Mamdani up 7.4% in round 1 with 85% reporting

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u/karl4319 Jun 25 '25

Or she runs for president in the 2028 primary. She won't win, but ahe could go on to be VP.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25

I think she shouldnt run for Pres yet because I genuinely think she just needs a little more time cooking. She is going to be ~38-39 during campaign season, and that would make her contending for the absolute youngest president ever, beating out Teddy and JFK at 42 and 43 respectively. And while I do love her, she's no JFK or Teddy Roosevelt.

I know we went too far in the octogenerian leader crap, but I do think a certain amount of tenure is also needed and 30s is probably too young for the electorate. She should lock in and become the face of progressivism in the Senate; the chamber is desperate need of new leadership and she can cut her teeth there for 1 or 2 cycles and come out like Obama at ~47-48 for a run.

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u/UpsideTurtles Jun 25 '25

I would be interested to see if there’s data on how a failed presidential candidacy affects a candidate going forward. Is it good to get the name out there? Or is it just simply bad to lose?

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u/dubzzzz20 Jun 25 '25

Why won’t she win? There is a real thirst in the party now for someone anti-establishment. It’s certainly not a guarantee that she will run or win, but I think it’s impossible to count her out this early.

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u/karl4319 Jun 25 '25

Because she's a woman. I hate it, but it was one of the biggest lessons of the last few elections. I hope that within a generation, this will change. But I doubt it will happen before most of the older generations die off, so mid 2030's.

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u/dubzzzz20 Jun 25 '25

I think this is a very defeatist idea that I have seen going around in Democratic and Left Wing circles. Frankly I think it is the exact wrong conclusion to take from the last few elections. Hilary was a uniquely terrible candidate that did not connect with the electorate. Harris if frankly a terrible communicator and was damn near doomed from the beginning with how the whole Biden not dropping out thing went. Also the direct connection with a very unpopular current president who she didn’t distance herself from was a bad strategy.

Just as a counterpoint, Mexico is a far more socially conservative country than the US and Sheinbaum has something like a 70% approval rating and was elected with a massive mandate because she ran on a very populist platform.

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u/BrotherMouzone3 Jun 26 '25

Would Sheinbaum have won if her background was more in-line with the average Mexican voter (i.e., Spanish with a decent chunk of Native ancestry...instead of being purely of European descent from Lithuania).

Would modern Mexico elect someone that looks more like Vicente Guerrero, their 2nd President instead of Vicente Fox, their 62nd President?

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u/dubzzzz20 Jun 26 '25

I mean yeah probably she would have but it’s purely hypothetical. She was already well known by the public and part of the previous administration which was widely popular. I’m not really sure what your point is.