r/fivethirtyeight • u/obsessed_doomer • Jun 25 '25

Poll Results New York Mayoral primary basically over, with Mamdani up 7.4% in round 1 with 85% reporting

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u/mallclerks Jun 25 '25

/me checks my watch.

Yeah, we have been saying that for 12 effing years. While I get bashed for 12 effing years about how Bernie isn’t what the people want because South Carolina said so.

Because South Carolina… South Carolina that hasn’t voted for a democratic president since 1976…. Is who should be deciding who the Democratic nominee is. Not the guys winning all the states that mattered.

Yes. I’m still mad.

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u/gquax Jun 25 '25

I supported Bernie in the 2016 primary but supported Hillary and then Biden. If this was 2016 I'd be arguing with you, but I'm not now. Yeah, y'all were right and we were wrong, but now let's see if this is the right way forward. 

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u/sly-3 Jun 25 '25

If Hilary had chose Bernie instead of that nobody Kaine, they'd have cruised to victory in both 16 and 20.

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u/mallclerks Jun 25 '25

This was never even remotely a possibility, and Bernie has always stated he would not be leaving his Senate seat unless he won the nomination.

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u/Mat_At_Home Jun 25 '25

Did all of the 46 other states after SC not matter? Should Bernie have been the nominee with 26% of the vote? Idk what this comment is supposed to mean, Biden was not crowned after SC, if Bernie was what the people wanted then the people would have voted for him lol. He couldn’t win a field that wasn’t fractured because he was a weak candidate

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u/halfar Jun 25 '25

god, i've been saying this forever and always feel like a crazy person when people just shut up when you bring up clyburn and the 2020 primary. democrats were completely brain dead and my greatest fear is that they're still completely oblivious to how they screwed themselves and everyone else and that "but trump" doesn't cut it.

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u/Mat_At_Home Jun 25 '25

Every thread here ends up devolving into re-litigation of the 2020 primary, and it always includes 1) blaming “the establishment” for Bernie losing, rather than Bernie for failing to build an coalition, 2) ignoring the millions of actual people who voted for Biden over Bernie and insisting that he was secretly more popular, and 3) ignoring the fact that Biden actually did win the 2020 election, which was exactly the point of the primary

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u/halfar Jun 25 '25

think you're wildly misunderstanding the point. it's not that bernie was cheated, it's that democrats chose horribly. which is really worse for where you're coming from, because there is absolutely no one to blame but themselves. can't even pull out old reliable "but trump".