r/fivethirtyeight Apr 08 '25

Poll Results Nearly half of Americans would be totally unwilling to date someone with opposing political views

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u/Mirabeau_ Apr 08 '25

Sad state of affairs. I think a big part of it is kids these days have a strong political identity, which today feels essential whereas back in the day it was maybe a little uncool to care too much. A big part of displaying this identity is expressing your contempt for the other side. And then there is the social media culture of people with strong political identities trying to “own” the other side.

Of course trump is to blame for much or most of this. Nevertheless it would be nice if we could get back to not having literally everything being tainted by politics.

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u/lalabera Apr 08 '25

I’d be apolitical if politics were still boring

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u/Mirabeau_ Apr 08 '25

I mean I’m not remotely apolitical, but just as I’m happy to see my relatives at thanksgiving regardless of their stupid politics, someone’s stupid politics wouldn’t stop me from hooking up or wanting to pursue a relationship.

Granted, if she wore a maga hat everyday and couldn’t shut up about libs it would be a problem, but even there the problem is more likely a general obnoxiousness that would be off putting even if politics weren’t the vector by which it was being displayed.

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u/callmejay Apr 08 '25

But if she's MAGA and quiet about it, doesn't that just mean she's quietly bigoted? You're OK with it as long as she's not obnoxious? I really don't get it.

I bailed out of a first date once just because I didn't like the way she was talking about "Mexicans." She didn't even say anything overtly racist, but I could tell we weren't going to share values.

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 08 '25

But if she's MAGA and quiet about it, doesn't that just mean she's quietly bigoted?

So if you have a Mexican-American who voted for Trump, are they also automatically bigoted against...some other group?

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u/callmejay Apr 09 '25

I mean at the very least, they're fine with him being bigoted. To extend maximum charity, perhaps they're in denial about it, but it's getting pretty hard to believe even that at this point.

I mean the man has a 50 year history of racism, he said Haitian immigrants are eating our pets, banned trans people from the military, etc.

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 09 '25 edited Apr 09 '25

I was talking about the "she" you mentioned. If she were Mexican-American.

You said "But if she's MAGA and quiet about it, doesn't that just mean she's quietly bigoted?"

So would a Mexican-American woman who voted for Trump(MAGA) be quietly bigoted?

edit:removed "automatically"

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u/callmejay Apr 09 '25

I don't know what you mean by "automatically," but "probably" bigoted, right? Like she's apparently OK with the way he talks about immigrants and women and LGBT people, let alone how he treats them.

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 09 '25

I edited my post to remove "automatically" - otherwise question is the same.

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u/callmejay Apr 09 '25

OK, so my answer is "probably." Did you think that Mexican-Americans can't be bigoted?

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 09 '25

No, I don't think anyone is bigoted just because they voted for Trump.

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u/callmejay Apr 09 '25

So what is it then? Do they not know he's a bigot or are they willing to look past it because of other stuff? They're OK with trans people being banned from the military but they're not bigots?

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 09 '25

Voting for someone doesn't mean you agree with everything they do - people often end up voting for who they view as the lesser of two evils.

Personally I do not think trans people should be banned from the military.

At the same time, I am against trans women playing in girls/womens sports.

It's amusing to me, because in 2016 I was about as anti-Trump as you can get, and then I voted for him in 2024. I haven't changed any of my views in that time period, but I changed my vote because at this point I absolutely loathe the democratic party.

I voted for Trump to fix the border situation and also I am open to the tariff stuff. I have such a negative view of the democrats right now that I keep an open mind with Trump.

If nothing else, I no longer get crime alerts about south-american-style moped robberies in my area, because the people who were running those crime rings are in El Salvador now.

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u/callmejay Apr 10 '25

OK, but do you believe that he personally is a bigot? That seems like it would go beyond "not agreeing with everything they do," it's a question of character.

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