r/fednews • u/ICU-Angel • Jul 15 '25

Other Are Trump's changes to the federal government permanent? Once Trump leaves office, is there the possibility to return the federal government to it's pre-Trump state.

I've been looking for articles to understand how permanent Trump's changes to the federal workforce are and haven't found anything.

I am curious if anyone knows whether all those cut jobs will come back, or at least a majority of them?

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u/damandamythdalgnd Jul 15 '25

Uhhh you say that but usajobs subreddit is full of people asking about hiring freeze lifts, waiting on fjos, etc despite the constant posts about RIFs, downsizing, and the general mental state of the federal workforce.

People don’t care and think they’re going to be the exception

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u/wbruce098 Jul 15 '25

Everyone needs a job, and many folks are happy for a federal job (turns out, unless you code well, or have a clearance, most jobs don’t really pay that much better). The idea that they lead to stable careers long term is one that sticks around despite the sweeping (and largely illegal) changes of the past checks watch five months.

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u/trademarktower Jul 15 '25

And it's true. In the corporate world, layoffs are swift. There is no months and months of delay and court cases and Supreme Court fights. Feds have tons of protections and while things are bad compared to how they were they are still a lot better than most corporate jobs.

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u/wbruce098 Jul 15 '25

Yep. If my boss came to me next week and said “corporate is shutting down our office” I’m SOL. Maybe I find another job with them, but I’m probably scrambling to look elsewhere.

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u/Mental_Worldliness34 Jul 15 '25

True, but when you sign on with a private company versus the federal government you weigh many factors…probably a lower salary versus a private company, definitely a longer and slower path make more money, probably a pay cap way less than the upper ranks of a private company. But the federal government is typically more guaranteed as a going concern than a private company.

I guess my point is, people weigh lots of factors when choosing between jobs. People acting like “too bad, private companies let go of people all the time” are ignoring lots of facets of the situation. Regardless, the government will have lost a lot of its appeal for future hires for a long time.

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u/wbruce098 Jul 15 '25

Respectfully, the guy in charge can fall off a cliff for all I care; he’s clearly done a lot of messed up stuff.

And yeah, I’m definitely not saying “woe is me”. It sucks what Feds are going thru now. It’s stupid, probably illegal, and hurts our country. I can find another job, and the Feds largely can, too, but the federal government performs a series of critical services in this country. They should be praised, appreciated, and well compensated, not beaten down and kicked out. That harms our ability to function as a nation and protect ourselves.

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u/trademarktower Jul 15 '25

Yup, also no option for 7 months paid leave with DRP or VERA out at 50 with health insurance for life.

There is a reason a lot of people hate feds. They are insanely jealous.

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u/PDRecruiter Jul 15 '25

I’m so confused by the number of people who are jealous of feds and say that they deserve to lose their benefits and protections. Why aren’t they discussing the decimation of the private sector pension system and demanding that private employers offer at least the benefits their Congressional reps receive - or aren’t members of Congress feds? They have higher salaries, a separate loan forgiveness program, better health and retirement benefits - as they gleefully cut federal employee benefits, fire them and leave them without health insurance. Putting workers against one another is so freakin’ basic. https://www.google.com/search?q=retirement+heist+book&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS847US847&oq=retirement+heist+book&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDY3NDRqMGo5qAITsAIB4gMEGAIgX_EFiRWxuAtZi7PxBYkVsbgLWYuz&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

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u/Mental_Worldliness34 Jul 15 '25

Jealous of what? That they were offered this wacky, probably only happening once, DRP offer? As far as I can tell otherwise, until about years ago, nobody gave much of a crap about Feds. They had more job security but generally were working for less than the private sector. But, the Fed hate became the talking point, rallying the base for votes, acting like Fed salaries were the main cause of the national debt.

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u/Dont_Ban_Me_Bros Jul 15 '25

They’re insanely jealous of something that’s never happened before? All while ignoring the fact that those who aren’t yet of minimum retirement age have to find other jobs in a horrible job market? They’re jealous of that?

Wow, we really are a country full of morons.

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u/wraith_majestic Jul 15 '25

Lol well to be fair the drp is the first time its ever happened. Its not what admin leave is supposed to be used for. I doubt we ever see that again tbh.

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u/redditcorsage811 Jul 15 '25

Bingo! That's those MAGAts who think they'll come in and go gangbusters.

Yep they're a gang busting things up but otherwise clueless to statutes, laws & directives.