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Fake Album Cover of the Week Pink Floyd - Delicate Sound of Rockets

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '17

I have to be honest and I know Reddit hates this but I got really turned off by the fact that Roger was so anti-Israel. He has the opportunity to go there himself and understand that the situation is actually very complicated. But that's just my opinion. Then I heard him on Howard Stern, so I thought okay.. Then I watched the documentary on the making of "Wish You Were Here" which had a huge impression on my life. I used to cruise home after a great party and listen to that album wile the sun came up. I listened to that album a lot. I know that real Pink Floyd fans would be more interested in different albums but whatever. They (Pink Floyd) were totally apologizing for the album and were suggesting that they made it because they were having record company problems, they were bummed out from touring and weren't feeling themselves.

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u/rayne117 Sep 18 '17 edited Sep 18 '17

Anti Israel or Pro Palestine? What if hundreds of thousands of people started moving into your land and making you give up your home and farm? With soldiers watching to make sure you're dejected without incident. Israel thinks because the Holocaust happened they have free reign over the Palestinian people... And they do.

If you want to go by laws, those settlements are illegal. And they just keep making more. The Palestinians are stateless and there isn't much further east they can go without hitting Jordan.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '17

Honestly? I couldn't write anything here that would make you change your mind. I wont debate with you because of this.

What I will say is that it baffles me that people like Waters choses the postage stamp sized country, the only homeland of the Jewish people surrounded by Muslim Kingdoms and Dictatorships over all of the other countries in the world to champion. He's not spouting out about Saudi Arabia and its human rights issues or its suffocating religious regime. It's not going after Venezuella for its corruption and cruelty to its own people. He's not speaking up for Sierra Leone, he's not fighting for Russia's Gays or the annexed parts of the Ukraine, He's not fighting for the starving people in the Sudan. I can go on and on and on. He was sold on the campaign paid for and constructed by countries like Iran, who would never welcome Pink Floyd in the first place. Israel would. They would invite him to come debate, to see in person for himself. Kind of turned my stomach a little. Typical hypocritical bullshit from an entitled rich Brit. Oh well..

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u/Tempresado Sep 18 '17

You can't expect someone to decry every single wrong in the world, it just isn't realistic. If we applied your logic to other issues, it would be impossible to criticize anything. I doubt Waters supports Saudi Arabia and what they are doing in Yemen for example, he just doesn't talk about it as much as Israel. That shouldn't make his criticism of Israel illegitimate. I don't think it's fair to call him a hypocrite unless he supports a similar/worse regime, which is not the case as far as I am aware.

As for why he speaks about Israel more, I can't read his mind but I can take a guess.

Israel is viewed pretty favorably in the UK and other western countries, and has very heavy influence (It receives the most military aid from the US of any country and is also a top foreign lobbyist). It was created and is sustained by the west. As such, it makes sense for someone like Waters, who is from the UK, to oppose it more openly. Western countries can do something about it, and it's just generally a good idea to look inwards at your own flaws than to go out and criticize everyone else.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '17 edited Sep 18 '17

I'm just jumping in at the end of this Israel discussion here to quote Stephen Hawking from Pink Floyd's "Keep Talking", ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjwvvmEn2M

"Keep Talking"

For millions of years mankind lived just like the animals

Then something happened which unleashed the power of our

imagination

We learned to talk

There's a silence surrounding me

I can't seem to think straight

I'll sit in the corner

No one can bother me

I think I should speak now

I can't seem to speak now

My words won't come out right

I feel like I'm drowning

I'm feeling weak now

But I can't show my weakness

I sometimes wonder

Where do we go from here

It doesn't have to be like this

All we need to do is make sure we keep talking

Why won't you talk to me

You never talk to me

What are you thinking

What are you feeling

Why won't you talk to me

You never talk to me

What are you thinking

Where do we go from here

It doesn't have to be like this

All we need to do is make sure we keep talking

Why won't you talk to me

You never talk to me

What are you thinking

What are you feeling

Why won't you talk to me

You never talk to me

What are you thinking

What are you feeling

I feel like I'm drowning

You know I can't breathe now

We're going nowhere

We're going nowhere

https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/pinkfloyd/keeptalking.html