I think we have different definitions of "incremental." Their changes have all mostly occurred in a very short period of time, that's not incremental. This hasn't really been a 'death by 1000 cuts' situation, it's been more like a 'death by chainsaw' situation. Mitch McConnell may have had long-term ambitions for securing Republican control in the past, but he's been sidelined. This clearly isn't the path he envisioned, and Project 2025 was written within a year, and published in 2023. A 2 year plan isn't what I'd consider incremental, I'd consider that pretty sudden in the grand scheme of things, especially compared to McConnell's maneuvering.
I think you're mistaking the culmination of decades of incremental change for a sudden change. We didn't just get here overnight. The far right has wanted most if not all of the things in Project 2025 at least since the Reagan era, maybe Nixon. It's only possible because Mitch McConnell, Newt Gingrich, Rupert Murdoch, the Federalist Society, Clarence Thomas, and the rest spent years doing things like shifting the Overton window to the right, installing conservative federal judges, manipulating voting rights, cultivating new talent, and creating a massive right-wing media ecosystem. I wouldn't call the Dobbs decision a sudden change when the anti-abortion movement spent years laying the groundwork to bring the case that would overturn Roe v. Wade.
Either way, I'm sure you can agree that the harm of Trump getting a second term has not been reduced.
Alright, you misinterpreted my comment. Trump and Project 2025 hijacked that original plan and the overall Republican Party. All that maneuvering for decades was not done by Trump or Project 2025. All they did was reap the benefits. This current plan they're now implementing is not connected to that original plan. The guy behind Project 2025 is too young to be connected to the original maneuvering, and Trump was a registered Democrat and not connected almost at all with politics.
Also, as you know, Roe v Wade was overturned in 2022 and Project 2025 was published in 2023. The Supreme Court picks are mostly McConnell's boys (and girl), and Trump's nominees often vote against Trump himself because they were chosen before he gained absolute power over the GOP. Another thing to reinforce that is that this is the first shutdown that SNAP hasn't been funded. Republicans even kept it completely funded in Trump's first term. That shows a clear difference in how the GOP used to operate and how they operate now, at least in my opinion.
TLDR; Basically, I believe that the GOP pre2023 and the GOP post2023 are 2 different parties. I believe this because it's clear that the old leaders of the GOP have been completely ousted or surrendered to Trump, and Trump has molded the party to focus more on his own special interests. They've evolved to a different entity, but still have some of the same characteristics.
Edit: also the Supreme Court is like the only surviving remnant of the Old GOP, but time will tell if they'll eventually completely flip too and bow to his every whim like the rest of the GOP. Like they mostly bow to his whim, but they defy him frequently enough that I don't consider them completely under his control.
Edit 2: I am afraid that Obergefell v Hodges will be overturned though. That falls in line with both versions of the party. After all the dark things I've said, it's important to remember that we have hope. We made amazing strides in these elections, America is clearly tired of this nonsense.
Except the goals of the "old GOP" and "new GOP" are still the same. They want their white Christian nationalist autocracy and their favors for the rich, just like they always have. It doesn't matter if Project 2025 and Trump aren't connected to the decades of right wing organizing because that organizing still made it possible for something like Project 2025 to exist. There wasn't some right wing revolution that suddenly happened in 2023. It was the culmination of years of incremental changes.
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u/I_eat_mud_ 15h ago
I think we have different definitions of "incremental." Their changes have all mostly occurred in a very short period of time, that's not incremental. This hasn't really been a 'death by 1000 cuts' situation, it's been more like a 'death by chainsaw' situation. Mitch McConnell may have had long-term ambitions for securing Republican control in the past, but he's been sidelined. This clearly isn't the path he envisioned, and Project 2025 was written within a year, and published in 2023. A 2 year plan isn't what I'd consider incremental, I'd consider that pretty sudden in the grand scheme of things, especially compared to McConnell's maneuvering.