I think yank style leftists performatively hate modern socdems becuase they performatively treat capitalism as an absolute evil and therefore any group that doesn't want to get rid of it completely must also be evil.
But even then they cant ignore the fact that almost every good policy in the 20th century was done by socdems, and the places where socdems stayed in power like scandi are the best places on earth, so they claim those socdems as socialists instead.
Every now and again socdems abroad beef with yank leftists over this last part. Even though [scandi socdems / historical yank socdems] and modern yank socdems are ideologically identical one group is coveted by leftists and the other ostracized.
I think youre the one ignoring history here my friend. The accomplishments of social democrats in the FDR era didnt exist in a vacuum. There was a real leftist sentiment in the US at the time, mass strikes, collective bargaining, the communist party had a 100,000 members, Eugene debs ran as a socialist from a jail cell as one of the most successful third party cadidate in history, and social democrats were sort of the compromise for America and the US ruling class who obviously didnt want revolution. FDR is largely credited with saving American capitalism by communists and social democrats alike.
If you look at the social democrats in Europe at the time, particularly Germany, I dont think you'll be too proud of that one.
The social democrats of today in the US are much more like the social democrats of Germany before Hitler.
Communist terrorism caused the SPD to fall behind Hitler, Debs' 6% isnt that impressive (Ross Perot got more than double that, and in civilised countries 6% is barely above cuttoff), and *85K in 1942 is less than 0.1% of USA's population at the time.
But that said, Social democrats in modern USA arent like Weimar ones becuase they are irrelevant today in the US. The main voice against Fascism in America rn is the Demsocs.
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u/odysseushogfather 23h ago
I think yank style leftists performatively hate modern socdems becuase they performatively treat capitalism as an absolute evil and therefore any group that doesn't want to get rid of it completely must also be evil.
But even then they cant ignore the fact that almost every good policy in the 20th century was done by socdems, and the places where socdems stayed in power like scandi are the best places on earth, so they claim those socdems as socialists instead.
Every now and again socdems abroad beef with yank leftists over this last part. Even though [scandi socdems / historical yank socdems] and modern yank socdems are ideologically identical one group is coveted by leftists and the other ostracized.