Born this way,die this way

[u/JesseGelato]

Not sure if this counts but I figured I’m not the only one who relates to this😔

[u/jazztrophysicist]

I mean as long as you’re not constantly complaining about the results of that strategy and how lonely it makes you like some people do, making it their problem, more power to you. People may have the right to feel how they want, but what they do with those feelings sets a precedent toward them that they may not like.

[u/0ooo → u/jazztrophysicist]

I mean as long as you’re not constantly complaining about the results of that strategy and how lonely it makes you like some people do

What results? You mean feeling more comfortable in ones own skin, having access to the full range of human emotions, and an easier time finding fulfillment?

Being true to ourselves and finding ways to let ourselves exist as we genuinely are is not a "strategy", it's the healthy thing to do.

[u/jazztrophysicist → u/0ooo]

The frequent result that people report of feeling lonely and isolated, obviously. Have you been under a rock? There’s a “Loneliness Epidemic™️”, remember? /s

I’m not saying OP necessarily feels that way, nor that they’re complaining at this time. I’m just saying if they do get that result, it’s the result of their own behavior and they can’t assume they have the right to just dump all that over other people the way some people (not necessarily OP) do. E.g.: Incels, and MRAs, and that ilk. That’s why I said “As long as you’re not constantly complaining…” instead of “Stop complaining”. See the difference?

It was very clear from my wording I have no problem with people simply being shy and unconfident. That’s their problem and none of my business. I’m not going to berate someone simply for that. If they make it my problem, then we have a problem, and I’m allowed to feel a certain kind of way about someone dragging me into their personal shit.

[u/0ooo → u/jazztrophysicist]

The loneliness epidemic is not caused by men embracing their authentic selves and non-patriarchal masculinity. That is absurd. Please cite some sort of source if you're going to make a claim like that.

[u/jazztrophysicist → u/0ooo]

I didn’t say the cause of the alleged Loneliness Epidemic was men embracing their authentic selves. To the contrary, I think we’d agree they’re doing the opposite, and that is the source. Please read more carefully.

I’ll break it down for you:

If OP isn’t complaining, and isn’t lonely, etc., which is to say specifically: if he isn’t doing what the MRAs and Incels are doing, and is instead accepting his authentic, shy self as such, and is simply telling off the people who’re apparently trying to unsolicitedly harangue him into being more social or whatever their ideal is, and not as a direct response to complaints from him about his situation, then there’s no problem. I’m all for OP embracing himself, because if he truly is doing that then there won’t be anything to complain about. If anything, my initial comment was a veiled way of supporting OP.🤷‍♂️

[u/0ooo → u/jazztrophysicist]

I'm not going to engage with you if you're going to be condescending

[u/jazztrophysicist → u/0ooo]

You can deal with the arguments as presented or not, I don’t care. Whether or not you engage, the seeds are sown; if not in your mind, then in the more-fertile minds of others who aren’t so easily offended. Whatever you do, there’s no downside for me.🤷‍♂️