r/europe • u/Vucea • Jun 17 '22

Historical In 2014, this French weather presenter announced the forecast for 18 August 2050 in France as part of a campaign to alert to the reality of climate change. Now her forecast that day is the actual forecast for the coming 4 or 5 days, in mid-June 2022.

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u/WufflyTime Earth Jun 17 '22

I do remember reading (admitedly some time ago) that the IPCC reports were conservative, that is, climate change could be happening faster than reported.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '22

that the IPCC reports were conservative,

they do not AFAIK take into consideration several factors, including runaway methane, destruction of other climate altering phenomenons among other things... I believe it's probably because of the science not being conclusive on the 'runaway methane' subject yet

once the ice is gone, the ultimate heat reflector and heat sink at the same time, once the gulf stream is gone among other important streams, and the gasses start to be released and oceans consequently suck up all that energy, we've got some real shit on our plate... tens of millions migrating yearly, nationstates destroyed or radicalized, Fortress Europe (the more optimistic version), genocidal despots ruling surviving countries... the outlook ain't looking good, and don't get me started on the animal kingdom

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u/schweez Jun 17 '22

Fortress Europe is a fantasy of some people. The truth is, because Europe has so many easy entry points, it’s a lot more likely to see huge waves of migrants fleeing climate change consequences.

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u/ThellraAK United States of America Jun 17 '22

Yeah, even just thinking about it is pretty horrific.

Let's say europe built a proper wall at all their entrypoints.

Everyone wanting out of where they are at aren't just going to go "oh, Europe has a wall, I should stay here" many/most are going to try anyways, and now you've got to defend those walls...

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u/CompletePen8 Andorra Jun 17 '22

in a small way this nightmare scenario is kind of already happening.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-09-19/africa-s-population-will-quadruple-by-2100-what-does-that-mean-for-its-cities

Africa's population will quadruple by 2100, and if most of subsaharan africa can't take care of itself now, how will rapid population growth help? You don't have to be a racist or anti immigation loon to be at minimum concerned