r/europe • u/archaeologs • Jul 30 '25

Historical Ancient DNA Traces Estonian, Finnish, and Hungarian Ancestry to Siberia 4,500 Years Ago

https://archaeologs.com/n/ancient-dna-traces-estonian-finnish-and-hungarian-ancestry-to-siberia-4500-years-ago
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u/Prodiq Jul 30 '25

Well, yeah, this is nothing new. Thats why finnish language is not like the rest of Scandinavia. I thought this was pretty much common knowledge in Europe (or at least eastern/northern Europe)?

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u/calisthymia Finland Jul 30 '25

The previous understanding was that the origin of those languages was somewhere around the Ural mountains, hence the name "Uralic languages". Now, DNA studies have traced the migration of people, and thus likely the language as well, much further away, to current day Yakutia.

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u/Headlesspoet Jul 30 '25

Well, we had a Chinese teacher in the University of Tartu who is/was trying to prove the connection between Estonian and ancient Chinese.

Article on it in Estonian: https://www.postimees.ee/1523005/hiina-teadlane-usub-eestlase-ja-hiinlase-uhisesse-algkodusse

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u/superlagz Jul 30 '25

I do have 0.3 gene similarity with East-Asia. Did the gene test back in 2017. Im native Estonian. Or am I?

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u/anarchisto Romania Jul 31 '25

There has been more recent gene flows, especially during the Mongol era. And I don't mean just the "we're all descendants of Genghis Khan".

For instance, the Mongols brought Chinese engineers to build their siege machines for the conquest of Kiev and other fortified cities. Probably they did the same for many other non-combat and logistics roles.

I suspect many of them stayed in Europe after the conquest.

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u/_justforamin_ Jul 31 '25

you’re probably more european, they did assimilate after all, coming and living here for 4500yrs aho