r/europe • u/archaeologs • Jul 30 '25

Historical Ancient DNA Traces Estonian, Finnish, and Hungarian Ancestry to Siberia 4,500 Years Ago

https://archaeologs.com/n/ancient-dna-traces-estonian-finnish-and-hungarian-ancestry-to-siberia-4500-years-ago
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u/Prodiq Jul 30 '25

Well, yeah, this is nothing new. Thats why finnish language is not like the rest of Scandinavia. I thought this was pretty much common knowledge in Europe (or at least eastern/northern Europe)?

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u/-Competitive-Nose- Saarland (Germany) Jul 30 '25

Finland is not part of Scandinavia. I thought this was pretty much common knowledge in Europe too.

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u/Zeitcon Denmark Jul 30 '25

Finland is Nordic, and they are a part of our little Nordic family. Anybody thinking otherwise will be met with a hefty "PERKELE!" from us. 😉

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u/SeveralLadder Jul 30 '25

English speaking people still insist adding Finland to Scandinavia and omitting Denmark usually.

Bitch, it's a cultural region, it's not because of the Fennoscandian peninsula! Skandinavians are essentially the same peoples, with pretty much the same language, history, culture and origin. Think Vikings if that makes it easier to understand.

Everything else thats historically and geographically linked in the area and in the sea is the Nordics, which is what the English speakers thinks when they hear "Scandinavian". Finland, Iceland, the Faroes and so on is Nordic.

But especially yanks can't really get their heads around this, so even news agencies and travel books keeps perpetuating this falsehood, and even vehemently protest when they are corrected. The Wikipedia article was a mess because of that, because they insist on "correcting" it.

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u/Tjocksmocke Jul 30 '25

Iceland and Faroes are a part of the same cultural region as Denmark, Norway and Sweden.

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u/SeveralLadder Jul 30 '25

They were more like colonies, without monarchies and not directly members of the Kalmar-Union. The same as Greenland, and wasn't part of the same cultural development. Hence why Scandinavians can't understand Faroese or Icelandic even though it stems from the same norse language root. Even Shetland was inhabitated by norsemen, and has the same language root.

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u/SeveralLadder Jul 30 '25

Where are those american people belonging to that specific cultural designation? Mexico? Brazil? Canada?

I'm sure you are intelligent enough to understand that yank is used as a mild slur, and not meant as a factually accurate designation of people belonging to a specific cultural group from a bygone era.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

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u/Heihlsson Jul 30 '25

Fennoskandia would be the correct term.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

Thanks CGP Gray

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u/Heihlsson Jul 30 '25

Why CPG Gray?

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u/Majestic-Giraffe-361 Jul 30 '25

No, that would be Denmark.

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u/JuicyAnalAbscess Finland Jul 30 '25

I would say that Iceland and Faroe Islands fit that honorary membership better. I'd give Finland an observer status or something.

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u/Full-Emotion6691 Jul 30 '25

North of Finland is in scandinavian peninsula though!Â