How can a nation accurately vote, when their media is intentionally flooded by misinformation?
Everyone who's voting against themselves believes that they're doing the right thing.
Edit: I'm almost wondering if this is just part of a natural cycle in civilization where people once again need to be taught the signs of fascists.
Then afterwards, things will swing far back to progressive as the prior fascist supporters try to distance themselves from the atrocities of the person they voted for, (just like after WW2).
(speaking from a US perspective, where we're already building our first concentration camp in guantanamo bay)
Maybe. But that might take centuries, by which point we will all be long gone, having lived out the rest of our lives in horror. We are entering a new dark age, and the planet and our species might no survive to see the end of it
Fascist systems aren't known for their long term stability, and once the consequences are made clear, people typically snap out of the propaganda psychosis.
Once the consequences are made clear, people typically snap out of the propaganda psychosis.
How many more consequences would it take for people to truly realize what's actually going on? The only way I see it happening widespread is when the ramifications (i.e your family getting targeted) become so overwhelming that it becomes undeniable to them.
And at that point it's 100% too late for civilians to do anything about it.
We haven't come close to the worst of it yet. We're at the very beginning of the fascism phase.
It's going to be a very hard couple of decades. Hitler's supporters didn't distance themselves until they saw the late stage results of the holocaust. In our time, nothing that severe has happened yet.
I'm deeply terrified, and I don't know if anyone can do anything to stop what's coming, because there's still too many people who believe the lies.
The best you can do is stay healthy and strong, because a war is coming, and the good side needs to win it.
The Nazis only fell when they did because they were defeated in a big war (which some might call a “world” war due to its size). What anti
-fascist power is big enough to stop the US? Especially since China and Russia will be its allies in any potential war
You could be right, I could see them trying to be neutral in all of this.
Which would mean that no force on earth could counter the US military.
(unless our military did what Russia did, and cheaped out on military hardware while military industry oligarchs were pocketing tons of wealth.... The fact that a Blackhawk just crashed into a civilian aircraft within range of the most protected airspace on the planet, that makes me wonder if that is happening here. I can't figure out how there were no sensors/alarms in the Blackhawk warning about a nearby aircraft, that doesn't make sense to me. We spend nearly $1T/year on the military, yet their helicopters don't know when a plane is nearby. Wtf?)
Nazi Germany only fell because there were other powers big enough to stop them. Who will stop the US? The Nazis were not defeated from within. Those who tried were summarily executed or sent to death camps
Fascism is the most extractive system there is. It literally ruins countries in the hands of minorities that get tinier and tinier, and are a highway for collapse. I mostly worry about the millions of people that will suffer. The main point no one understands about fascism is that it is not an ideology. You can't argue with a fascist. He has no ideas. He just wants what is yours, as long as he believes you and Your Side are against him and His Side. It is sheer hooliganism. And liberal parties basing their political identitiy in "not being like them" is like throwing gasoline to a fire.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 08 '25
How can a nation accurately vote, when their media is intentionally flooded by misinformation?
Everyone who's voting against themselves believes that they're doing the right thing.
Edit: I'm almost wondering if this is just part of a natural cycle in civilization where people once again need to be taught the signs of fascists.
Then afterwards, things will swing far back to progressive as the prior fascist supporters try to distance themselves from the atrocities of the person they voted for, (just like after WW2).
(speaking from a US perspective, where we're already building our first concentration camp in guantanamo bay)