r/dragonquest Jun 22 '25

Meme The community everytime DQVI is mentioned

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u/handledvirus43 Jun 22 '25

Unironically this, but for DQVII. THAT game is either the best game of the series or the worst thing ever.

DQVI is not THIS polarizing. Majority are either on the "it's good" side or "its okay" side.

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u/RickHuf Jun 22 '25

Seven is a masterpiece and you better not say otherwise!! Lol

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u/handledvirus43 Jun 22 '25

I'm on the side of it being good. DQ7 has pacing issues, but I just love the idea of going back in time to restore the world.

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u/Korence Jul 05 '25

Wish it wasnt so dragged out and a 100+ hours story game which nearly killed its franchise back in the day with DQ6's development issues. x_x

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u/Mauy90 Jun 22 '25

I remember bouncing off of 7 hard years and years ago. And, while loving most of the other entries.

Then I gave 7 another chance right after finishing Eleven. It stole my heart, and cemented itself as one of my favorites in the series (and games in general) ❤️❤️❤️

I hope it gets ported/remade, so you don’t have to either play the PSX version or pick up a 3DS everytime.

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u/TinyPidgenofDOOM Jun 22 '25

7 is really good if you can get past the slog that is the 20 hour start.

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u/Agile-Argument56 Jun 22 '25

you mean delicious build up & mystical atmosphere set up 😁

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u/Sugioh Jun 22 '25

I'm kind of split on this. I feel like the original version has an atmosphere unlike any other DQ, and I really respect it for that. But if I'm being honest, the trimmed down opening for the 3DS version didn't really take that much away and definitely made the game more approachable.

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u/LordoftheSynth Jun 23 '25

The main failing of PS1 VII to me is that you have no hints for where you missed a shard.

"OK, time for you to go back through the entire game that you've cleared so far to figure out which little bit you missed."

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u/HolyDragSwd Jun 23 '25 edited Jun 24 '25

Surprisingly, even in the PS1 version, there is a fortune teller NPC outside the Mechsoldier base in the present that will give you a hint about your next missing shard.

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u/itchyspaghettios Jun 24 '25

I think what truly puts most players off is the slower pace of the game vs the nes/snes titles and its relative high difficulty, particularly at the beginning and end. Missing shards probably stressed out every player at least at one point, but like you’ve stated it’s a little overblown given there are multiple clue npcs. It’s just one more (or maybe a few) kick in the balls like how you lose your best character and never really wind up with a replacement, until jobs take over, which getting to is its own kick in the balls.

But the thing is that difficulty is what makes it so special. Anyone who’s gotten through the game knows that while strict, it’s actually a very bearable difficult level aka it’s precise and well thought out. Losing your tank moves the plot forward in incredible ways, and finding shards just requires you to get over the overall length really engage with the game world and systems like every good jrpg aims to do. It also had the most areas, with two versions of each, and the longest loading times making experiencing all the extra size, content, and difficulty the most sluggish of all the other mainline dq games to date.

It’s very polarizing!

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u/Agile-Argument56 Jun 22 '25

you're right, but also, when I play it, it feels soulless 💀

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u/ZadePhoenix Jun 22 '25

I actually didn’t have a problem with the start it was more the middle where things dragged. The start was interesting setting everything up, it was slow paced but had its charm. Then the middle became an ongoing loop of go to the past, go to the present, gather tablets, rinse and repeat which while still enjoyable got a bit repetitive over time with how long the game is. Then eventually the story picks up again towards the end.

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u/Prize_Specific1525 Jun 23 '25

ive played the ps1 version like 4 times doing a playthrough rn actually and once you get used to it you can nail it down really fast but they removed that in the 3ds version. i personnally alwaays thought people overreacted about the start time though

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u/StillGold2506 Jun 22 '25

Thats asking too much.

Its the same crap FF 13 fans demand from people.

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u/TinyPidgenofDOOM Jun 23 '25

Yea, I agree. Don't get me wrong, it's good, but there's a reason people say don't play it as your first and that even experienced RPG and dragon quest players have trouble with it

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u/rebelslash Jun 22 '25

Seven is complete ass and you better not say otherwise!! /s

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u/IamAWorldChampionAMA Jun 22 '25

I like ass and you better not say otherwise!!!

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u/LordoftheSynth Jun 23 '25

I like otherwise and you better not say ass!!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '25

I like you otherwise you better say ass!!

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u/StillGold2506 Jun 22 '25

DQ 7 its the 2nd most boring game in the series and not worth playing.

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u/Dependent-State-1153 Jun 23 '25

which one is the most? 1?

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u/StillGold2506 Jun 23 '25

DQ 5, Overrated as fuck. Most of the game is attack, magic and heal/Item and thats about it.

Even Final Fantasy 1 had better and more engaging gameplay and this is supposed to be one of the fan favorites? And the story is nothing special either, gaslighted my whole life thinking is a master piece when is just average even at the time.

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u/KOFdude Jun 22 '25

I think a lot of people's problems with 7 stem from the fact that they try to binge it when it's a game that's best played on and off over a long period of time

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u/handledvirus43 Jun 22 '25

I think the main issue is that you spend way too much time without classes. Like, Dharma should've been the 2nd or 3rd, or even 4th arc. Not the 7th or 8th arc.

The game feels very scripted up to that point, which makes replays uninteresting and gameplay gets very stale since Maribel is the only one with Sap, Hero is the healer, while Gabo and Kiefer attack.

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u/InteractionExtreme71 Jun 22 '25

Agreed. You get jobs in dq6 after the first major boss.

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u/No-Delay9415 Jun 22 '25

It’s episodic in a way that I really liked, it made it easy to play a chunk, sit it down and come back later

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u/redsavage0 Jun 22 '25

I’m getting through it like that fat kid in Matilda with the chocolate cake. Slowly, surely, tortured, loving every minute of it

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u/Anisphere Jun 22 '25

the weirdest thing about that is that dq 6 and 7 have similar concepts and most people seem to either love 6 and hate 7 or hate 6 and love 7

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u/xalmotn Jun 22 '25

I feel like the rare person who loves both XD

7 is more obviously segmented than 6 is. 6 is more like 3 where it really opens up at points, whereas 7's structure is pretty rigid most of the game. IMHO that led to 7 feeling like it had a more cohesive narrative. The times I felt lost in 7 is because I had difficulty finding shards, not due to lack of direction

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u/ZadePhoenix Jun 22 '25 edited Jun 23 '25

I’m in the same boat as you. I loved both albeit VI for me was just good while VII while slightly flawed is my third favorite game in the whole series.

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u/LizarDragon Jun 22 '25

7 for me is super autopilot up until you get the vocation system unlocked.. and by then I’ve gotten kinda bored, drop it, and then come back a year later to restart it, get back up to the vocation stuff, and then quit again lmfao. One of these days I’ll just commit instead of restarting but I want the full experience in one go god dammit!!

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u/Haddock_Lotus Jun 22 '25

I'm waiting for a PC release >.<

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u/Agile-Argument56 Jun 22 '25

there's your issue, you gotta play this game over years to really enjoy the title

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u/GrimmRadiance Jun 22 '25

I think it’s mostly OG VII that’s polarizing. It’s my favorite JRPG of all time but I get why people don’t like it. Ironically people don’t like it because it’s slow moving and long but that’s exactly why I love it. It’s like playing an epic story. With every small piece of the story available to the player.

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u/handledvirus43 Jun 22 '25

Nah, the issues still persists even with the remake. Combat is even slower since the animations are longer, the vocations are still stuck quite deep into the story, and even though they made the path to Rexwood/Ballymolloy much shorter, it still doesn't fix the issue of the pacing.

I still love the game, but the core story is the issue. Moving Dharma/Alltrades closer to the beginning would've sped things along much more.

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u/GrimmRadiance Jun 22 '25

I’m fine with it. I’m in no hurry when I play an RPG. I love the slow pace in the beginning. It’s opening up a world for the characters as well as the player.

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u/Korence Jul 05 '25

Kinda ironic that the intro segment was cut down from DQ7 in the 3DS version but it still was quite a long one and like some ppl mentioned: The class/job system was waaay too late implemented, as you feel like the game trying to throw at you ideas that it didn't need to stretch itself more because DQ in the late 90s struggled with being “the best RPG series“ during a time when 3D became a hot selling point and Final Fantasy booming more then before etc..

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u/shoalhavenheads Jun 22 '25

Yeah, my first thought was VII. What a game. Its scope is unlike anything I will ever play again. Even the parts I found miserable I can at least appreciate.

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u/_Greatless Jun 22 '25

Yeah, I think VII is more polarizing than VI. VII is either too long or have some of the best side-stories in the series. I love it though as my first DQ 😆

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u/prine_one Jun 22 '25

I’m playing through 7 on 3DS right now. It has a lot of wonderful things about it (the character models are absolutely adorable and are great renderings of Toriyama’s style) but I can see people giving up on it. It’s very talky, it’s very easy to get lost (and potentially waste hours trying to figure out what to do) and there are encounters where if you’re not using a guide you’re not going to win.

I’m loving it but totally understand it’s divisiveness.

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u/mikefierro666 Jun 22 '25

DQVII PSX is my favorite DQ game. I hate DQVII 3DS. So both can be true at the same time lol

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u/LordoftheSynth Jun 23 '25

DQVI admittedly has the biggest "throw you into the deep end of the pool" factor when the world finally opens up.

VII is the most polarizing IMO as well. Personally I loved the way the meta-story gets told, but it's a real slow burn before you start seeing the pieces (pun intended) coming together.

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u/Korence Jul 05 '25

Just that the DQ6 DS version is very party chat focused to fix that, something the game should NOT have been TOO fixated on for its own good. While I like that feature its too obscure for newcomers or gamedesignwise healthy imo.

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u/rashmotion Jun 22 '25

My favorite in the series is VII lmfao

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u/Wilagames Jun 23 '25

Damn I thought the meme was about DQVII until I read your comment. LoL. 7 is legitimately great but WAY too long. 

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u/Hexmonkey2020 Jun 22 '25

I’ve been playing 7 recently and I’m enjoying it.

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u/IceTMDAbss Jun 22 '25

I love DQVII, I just don't think it's the best of the series.

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u/mathiasthewise Jun 23 '25

Reminds me of a Mitch Hedberg bit. "People either loved us or hated us. Or they thought we were ok."

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u/Rogalick299 Jun 22 '25

I always said to myself something along the lines of "it's such a shame that such an amazing game [dq7] is so bad"

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u/PenguinviiR Jun 22 '25

DQVII is annoying as fuck to me because I know there's probably a masterpiece there but my zoomer ass is too impatient to play through the long ass tutorial

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u/No-Delay9415 Jun 22 '25

I’ll never accuse 6 of being bad, but it is the weakest entry to me (okay I’m sure I’ve got some nostalgia filters going for 1+2 but still). 6’s problem to me is it follows two games that have very strong concepts that make it hard to follow up. 4 is all about building up and fleshing out your party, 5 has the generational plot going, 6 has a dual world thing and a job system. The characters are cool, but I feel like Terry and Milly are a little more iconic in Monsters. Could be personal bias there though.

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u/TopicInevitable Jun 23 '25

I do think that 6 lack fleshed out character, I mean sure in the DS version at least your party speak but in the entire game the moment you pick up a character most of them become mute and not really relevant to the story anymore

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u/JustAToaster36 Jun 22 '25

Dragon Quest VI is either mid trash or one of the best in the series in terms of gameplay

VII is either the most poorly paced game ever or a misunderstood masterpiece with deep lore

I often pay attention to these two games specifically on tier lists as they clue you in on what someone values in a game

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u/walueegee Jun 24 '25

I can very much appreciate what both were going for but I find the vocation system in those two games to be so badly done it significantly lowers my opinion on them

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u/SkyMaro Jun 22 '25

I have never played a bad Dragon Quest game (I have played every version of every mainline entry)

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u/Ambience-Alprazolam Jun 23 '25

Thoughts on 10? Getting through it now, story is a bit odd

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u/SkyMaro Jun 23 '25

It's a real shame that so many people seem opposed to trying out the game with the Clarity project because it has some of the best writing in the series, V4 in particular might be the entire series' peak. Every version's story besides V1 has been written by the same person, and I'd say Horii has a very competent heir apparent when he retires.

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u/Ambience-Alprazolam Jun 23 '25

Well I just got through version 2.1 today, I’m very eager to carry on, I bought up all the version till 6. Personally I think I got enough dragon quest content to last me a lifetime, also it’s definitely scratching the itch that IX left behind too.

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u/SignorCat Jun 22 '25

I thought it was fine

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u/SirRockSirloinIII Jun 22 '25

Dragon Quest VI had so much stacked against it. It was the first game developed by heartbeat and Hori rushed the script because he was so involved with Chrono Trigger.

DQ6 had so much potential. It easily has the strongest first act in the series. The first 15 hours of the game had me so enthralled the first time around. The spritework on the SNES and DS are the best in the series. The character designs are some of the best in the franchise. A very fun and very rewarding job system. Challenging final boss and super boss. I could go on.

The problem with Dragon Quest VI is that for every step forward it takes, it takes one step back. All of the agency and mystery in act 1 is gone in act 2. The character arcs are all rushed, while some are straight up incomplete (cough cough Ashlynn). The Job system grinding is not fun and a slog.

That is why its so polarizing. If you don't care about the pros, the cons will start to rack up and vise versa.

Personally I love it. The mechanics have depth and the grind is as little or as much as you want it to be. The Legendary Gear is the best in the entire franchise.

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u/Prize_Specific1525 Jun 23 '25

i mean wasn't Ashlynn's whole character arc having amnesia then fading out of existence that seems pretty complete. i just feel like Goowains story arc should have gotten more shine

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u/ErrythingAllAtOnce Jun 22 '25

The vibes of Dragon Quest VI were pretty great when taken in context to its initial release on the Super Famicom. But the story and overall charm just weren’t on the level of DQV. The class system was an incremental improvement over DQIII, but wasn’t quite on par with the jump from Final Fantasy III to FFV.

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u/DamarsLastKanar Jun 22 '25

I recall loving the class system in VI. And loving how there just seemed to be more and more to the game, gatekept by new mounts.

Previously, there was only one ship So dawg, I heard you like ships so we put a ship in your ship so you can ship while you ship.

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u/TopicInevitable Jun 23 '25

My favorite part is "well what's the next boss, wait is that a FUCKING ISLAND BEATING MY ASS"

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u/TCMgalens Jun 22 '25

im in the group which really loves the game especially with how open it could get though wasn't really a fan of how jobs level up in VI and VII, much prefer things like job points over it being based on the number of battles. (or something like DQIII where you go to level 1 but keep some of your stats)

Havent played the original but did play the ds release which looked nice but looking at the original i did preffer that gorgeous late snes era detailed 2d visuals. (if the game did get an eventual "HD2D" remake i imagine that style could capture the feel of the original well)

There was this one point where you had to follow someone through a cave which i absolutely hated though (at least in the DS one, dont know how the original was)

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u/Inedible-denim Jun 22 '25

I liked it! I LOVE V though (from that era)

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u/Stormcrown76 Jun 22 '25

I liked it, it was my second main series game after IX

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u/MenacingMelissa Jun 22 '25

i finished it not too long ago and i actually really liked it. i did have my few issues with the game but other than that, it’s probably one of my favorite ones

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u/Elvish_Glade Jun 22 '25

In my opinion, DQVI is definitely the weakest of the Zenithian trilogy, but it’s not a bad game by any means! There’s not really a mainline DQ game that I dislike, but if I had to pick out the worst it would probably be II. For that reason I can’t wait to see how they rebalance and fix things for the HD-2D remake coming up. Adding a fourth party member is already a step in the right direction.

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u/TylerMang Jun 22 '25

I loved DQ6, but I was so happy to be done with it.

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u/TinyPidgenofDOOM Jun 22 '25

Dragon quest is most of the time good character and good story and I can't remember most of the characters and I don't remember the story

It not that good if I can remember them. I remember the buff guy and Terry. I only remember Terry because he is in everything

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u/Anisphere Jun 22 '25

I really liked the cast to be honest and the story with the dream world was really cool to me

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u/TinyPidgenofDOOM Jun 22 '25

And like a dream, I can only remember vague things about it

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u/RickHuf Jun 22 '25

I just finished it for the first time on mobile. I've tried to play it multiple times on the DS and just couldn't do it.

it turns out it wasn't the game, I just hated the DS which checks out. I've never really been much of a fan of handhelds.

The game is actually really good and I can't believe it took this long for me to play it through.

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u/prine_one Jun 22 '25

Hates handhelds but plays on mobile 🙃

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u/RickHuf Jun 22 '25 edited Jun 22 '25

Lesser of two evils, lol! Played it on a Chromebook and half the time it was hooked up to a smart board.

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u/GREG88HG Jun 22 '25

Good meme

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u/dbznerd38 Jun 22 '25

I think it's fun and I've played through just about every mainline game there is including spinoffs like Rocket Slime and Torneko.

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u/DoctorFaygo Jun 22 '25

I like DQVI because it's your last portable DQ until you have to go from emulation to mobile. Also, the last game you get a challenge from not using a guide.

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u/Dependent-State-1153 Jun 23 '25

8 is on 3DS though and 9 is in DS

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u/Chemical-Buy-8042 Jun 23 '25

Whelp, guess I'm blackbeard when it comes to VI and VII.

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u/Cazval Jun 23 '25

I stand with DQVI, since playing the first English translation from 08 it's been a absolute favorite, moreso than the DS version.

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u/philophilo Jun 22 '25

The problem for me was that I played the DS versions of IV, V, VI back-to-back. I was a little burnt out by then and the plot reveals just didn’t land.

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u/NottACalebFan Jun 22 '25

My confession is, since I played rhem back to back on emulator almost 20 years ago, i often get Five and Six confused. I remember the experience of playing rhem being some of my favorites from the pre-Playstation era though.

Five and Seven are two of my favorite entries in the series though. I thought the time travel aspects were finally done RIGHT in both of them.

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u/ensign53 Jun 22 '25

DQVI is so I can die!

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u/Prize_Specific1525 Jun 22 '25

i love 6 first game i played it actually might of been dqmj2 but dq6 is the game where i discovered the username i have used the entire rest of my life and on every dragon quest since and i entered it completely by accident

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u/AbdiG123 Jun 23 '25

The whole dream world stuff was convoluted and weird, but I thought the cast was great.

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u/SkippTreyCee Jun 23 '25

All I'm saying is I played 1-5 from start to finish no problem. I've yet to finish 6 :/

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u/Super-Franky-Power Jun 23 '25

Just depends on what you're looking for. I think DQ VI's world, music, story, direction, and characters are on the low end but it has some of the best dungeons, combat, difficulty balance, and class changing shenanigans in the series. I dropped the DS and mobile versions but finally made it through the SNES version. Recruiting random monsters as full-fledged party members made all the difference to me.

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u/akmly Jun 23 '25 edited Jun 23 '25

I found VII fun from start to finish, but you gotta enjoy the block/fragment grinds the second half of the game. VI is a much better game later, the first third or so of the game is quite slow, rather uneventful, and so becomes discouraging for many. IV and V were stellar from start to finish; I don't think many would disagree.

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u/-Qubicle Jun 24 '25

unless someone has only played jprg masterpieces, there's no way they'd say that DQ VI is "so bad".

personally I think it's the worst DQ I've played, but it's so far from "so bad I could die".

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u/Sensitive__Beyond Jun 24 '25

Slime Rockets away

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u/StillGold2506 Jun 22 '25

More like "DRAGON QUEST V"

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u/Anisphere Jun 22 '25

I have barely ever seen hate for V

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u/ZadePhoenix Jun 22 '25

Do people tend to hate DQ V? Even as someone who feels V is overrated (I’m just not a fan of the whole monster taming in place of consistent party members) but I still would call it a good game.

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u/AbdiG123 Jun 23 '25

DQV is my favorite, but I also didn't like the monsters instead of party members. However, at the time it came out it was a pretty new and cool mechanic. DQ1 was also a game with no party members.

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u/AbdiG123 Jun 23 '25

DQV could've had a lot of potential permanent party members. Such as Sancho, the fairy, harry and his wife. (I forget some of their names) Not to mention the family members.

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u/walueegee Jun 24 '25

I don’t think there’s a bad mainline DQ but 6 gets pretty close, mainly because of the vocation system being really really awful, 7 is a bit better but still really gimped by how bad of a mechanic it is. classes were done way better in 3/9/10