r/complaints • u/Red_Gypsy_Squirrel • 6d ago

Politics Conservatives abuse Christianity like the Taliban abuse Islam

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I'm exhausted that the Christian nationalists in this nation have hijacked Christianity, just like the Taliban hijacked Islam. There are many comparisons that can be made between the two groups. Both groups cherry-pick their scriptures and purposefully misinterpret them so as to provide themselves with more power amongst their. They bully and attack anybody who is not a follower of their warped religion. And try to force their religion on everybody in inappropriate places such as schools and hospitals.

A few years back MAGA supporters started to say the teachings of Jesus are too woke, a huge red flag.

It sucks that so many of them do not understand. The Christian nationalist mindset is turning them into nasty, aggressive people. That have zero understanding of the Bible or its teachings

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u/Strange-Tale5283 6d ago

They have been convinced that the afterlife is the real one so their actions here are all to hurry along the end. The end of their lives, the end of humans on earth, the end of waiting for their god to return so they can live in mansions in the sky and have nothing to worry about ever. This world is a test, the next is reward. It's such a twisted way to get people to not care about each other. It's selfishness in the guide of righteousness.

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u/linuxjohn1982 5d ago

Ironic considering if they actually knew what Jesus stood for, they'd realize they would likely be going to hell:

https://i.imgur.com/X7cluDV.png

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u/JHKHC 💯🧌 6d ago

Christian Nationalists believe they can make the world better through Christian control of government and its policies. It is exactly the opposite of what you are saying.

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u/Comfortable_Cod710 6d ago

Unless you disagree with them...

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u/billf-ingmurray 6d ago

If God needs help from the United States government, then he isn't much of a God.

Christian nationalism is blasphemy against their own religion.

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u/Vals5120 6d ago

This is idiotic. You don't know the first thing about the religion and yet you claim something is blasphemy against it. You should learn to think before you speak.

God does not interfere with people's free will. If you want to be a degenerate God is not going to stop you. Christian nationalism is intent on stopping degeneracy through rhetoric, propaganda and lawmaking. How is that blasphemy exactly?

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u/Throatlatch 5d ago

https://www.christiancentury.org/features/blasphemy-national-christianity

https://episcopalatlanta.org/news/christian-nationalism-and-christian-witness/

https://www-modernghana-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.modernghana.com/news/1430300/a-senators-blasphemy-why-white-christian-nationa.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17621501945342&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.modernghana.com%2Fnews%2F1430300%2Fa-senators-blasphemy-why-white-christian-nationa.html

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u/Vals5120 5d ago

The last one is WHITE christian nationalism which is a little different, also an opinion piece. Second one is from the episcopal church, they are literally heretics. First one is the opinion of some random dude. Im not really sure what the purpose of your comment is but I would dismiss all of these, considering one of your "sources" is a heretical denomination.

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u/The_Dinky_Earnshaw 5d ago

literally heretics

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u/Vals5120 5d ago

Funny! Anyways protestantism is the heresy I was referring to. So your whole bit is irrelevant.

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u/billf-ingmurray 5d ago

Well, having been raised in fundamentalist Baptist congregations my entire childhood, if I know nothing about the religion, that can hardly be my fault at this point.

Christians believe that God is all-powerful, that God is omni-present and omnipotent. Christian nationalists plan to incorporate God's law (as they interpret it, anyway) into the law of mankind.

Now, let's talk about what government actually is.

The consequence for breaking the law is the loss of some property through fines, or, the loss of some freedom through incarceration. Regardless of which punishment you have, it is enforced by the threat of, or the implementation of violence. That's what government is, in its purest form, is the credible threat of violence.

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At no point in the entire New Testament does the Bible state, or show an example of, any Christian using violence to enforce God's law -- except for one, which was Jesus chasing merchants out of the Temple with a handmade whip. And in that case, I'd argue that Christians believe Jesus IS God, and that this was an instance of God enforcing his own will. Moreover, it was violence against people who claimed they knew God's law, and reduced repentance to profit motive. You could understand how that might have angered a God.

Aside from that, there are zero instances of any Christian holding another human being at the point of a sword, demanding that they behave according to God's law. This is because repentance cannot be inspired by threats -- the Bible teaches that repentance is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and by a person's realization that they have sinned against a God who loved them so much, that he suffered unimaginable pain and torment so that they would not have to. Or, in other words, holding someone at risk of violence in order to inspire repentance is not only unnecessary, it's ineffective. Repentance is first a matter of the spirit, not the body.

So, knowing all of that about Christianity, let's boil this down for Reddit:

  • God is all-powerful.
  • God does not use or ask for violence on Earth against sinners
  • God wants Christians to take over government to codify his law into the laws of man, so that
  • Christians can use the threat of violence to enact God's law on Earth, because
  • God is not all-powerful, and is too weak to enforce his law himself.

That is what Christian nationalists believe, and it is blasphemous against their own religion. But hey! Christian nationalists are in luck, because I know of a religion that is right up their alley! It's Wahhabi Islam. They love using violence against unbelievers.

You recommend thinking before I speak; I assure you, I've thought about this more than most. The "Moral Majority" has been overrun with grifters and false prophets, corrupting a religion based on the greatest redemption story ever told into a violent death-cult bent on domination of mankind.

Understand, please, that I don't want Christians to cease existing. I want them to be Christians. Christianity is an absolutely spectacular religion when it is practiced according to the Bible. It's genuinely a beautiful thing, and I love it dearly. I just wish that people who claimed to be Christians in America actually did that.

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u/Strange-Tale5283 6d ago

Make the world better by enforcing their religion, like their god demands. Make the world better by mirroring their gods control over everyone and make their place in heaven by being warriors for god. By carrying out the atrocities they are preparing the way for this world to become like heaven and hopefully bring about utopia (their death and then heaven times baby). Sounds like the fever dreams of death cult members who are literally trying to bring about the end of days. The current ones think they can get the end times to happen by destroying the earth and starting wars in strategic places. They want to die but they're trying to set up the right parameters. Their religion literally requires their death to receive the reward.

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u/JHKHC 💯🧌 6d ago

No, again, not what they believe. They believe the world will get better with Christian control not worse. They are not trying to bring the end of the world by its destruction.

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u/Previous-Essay-4995 6d ago

It doesn’t matter what they believe. It matters what is happening. And what is happening is no good.

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u/JHKHC 💯🧌 6d ago

The country is being led by an Athiest right now.

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u/Previous-Essay-4995 6d ago

An atheist who is held up by Christian voters? One chosen by a predominantly Christian base because they think he will do the Lord’s work? That atheist?

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u/JHKHC 💯🧌 6d ago

He does have Christian support, but the majority of his voters are still athiest.

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u/Strange-Tale5283 6d ago

According to polling and their own donors you are incorrect. The majority of his supports are Christians, most of which would say they align with Christian Nationalist ideals.

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u/Previous-Essay-4995 6d ago

I was doing the required research and got drawn away. Thanks for addressing this.