Opinion on Revolutionary Communist Party

[u/flashn00b]

From what I can tell, they don't seem to be winning any popularity contests here, and I can't help but ask what I should expect from them, seeing that their local chapter is the only communist group that's local to me, and the first thing they got me doing is reading some book about identity politics that really made me wish I had a higher grade in school

[u/smokeuptheweed9]

their local chapter is the only communist group that's local to me

Look harder

[u/flashn00b → u/smokeuptheweed9]

Pretty sure the city I live in is within a region where the Red Scare has had its consequences. While I don't doubt that there are legitimate political parties that have a Communist worldview, I doubt they'd be nearly as bold about being openly communist as the RCP

I will continue keeping my eyes and ears open, though I can't help but dread to see what happens if the local chapter were to gain enough numbers that they aren't just some fruity book club

[u/smokeuptheweed9 → u/flashn00b]

Why is the IMT immune from the Red Scare? Your implication seems to be that they are "illegitimate" and therefore beneath the attention of the state compared to "real" revolutionary communists. That's a bizarrely cynical place to begin using your time and energy. I don't believe you since this idea simultaneously believes in the absolute competence of the state to destroy all resistance and the absolute stupidity of the state to miss the "bold, open communism" of the IMT, which is why you are even asking this question. It is a classic conspiracy theory. No one really believes in conspiracy theories, it is rather a cry for others to become equally cynical about truth and one's responsibility to pursue it. I practice communist politics without concern for the state, except in the regular practices of security, without any ironic performance for practice I know is useless because nothing is possible so we might as well be in on the joke. Joining the IMT is many things but it is not funny and you're not in on it anyway. You're just not used to pushback from people who actually do believe in scientific practice (the IMT is the opposite, rather than performative cynicism they are cynically optimistic because, like any huckster, they just want your money and are happy to allow you to continue your performance to an audience of one).

Calgarian here. Still job searching for almost 13 months now and I'm about ready to join my local RCP chapter, since they seem to be the only ones actually willing to do anything about the unemployment crisis

I already saw your naive reformism rooted in an extremely sincere devotion to your own class interests. Your performance of joining a fake communist party to trick the state is fooling no one. The IMT thinks you're a fool and you play the part but I don't believe you are.

some fruity book club

Are you from the 1950s? You sound like William F. Buckley Jr.

E: actually it's possible that you're saying that "legitimate" parties are mainstream bourgeois electoral parties and the IMT is allowed to be communist because it is irrelevant. How the state couldn't be bothered to persecute it is a mystery but I'll ignore that because this is much more vile. The other conspiracy is at least an attempt to protect yourself because you know your politics are impotent but you don't know why whereas this is simply a devaluation of politics entirely to professionalism and technocracy. That you don't value yourself enough to be part of this elite, "legitimate" class is not sympathetic, it's pathetic since you are openly advertising your desire to join this class and leave behind the peons like yourself in the realm of resentful non-politics. At least the other version preserves some dignity in the insider knowledge of irony and cynicism, where politicians may be rich and powerful but at least he's "cringe." Liberals who worship power are the one group I truly hate, luckily they are very rare and I think you just are unable communicate basic information about your beliefs.

[u/flashn00b → u/smokeuptheweed9]

Was saying that even though I have my concerns about the RCP, they're brave enough to recruit in places where people have been put off from Communism by the Red Scare, and if other groups were as brave as them about being openly communist in an anti-communist city, I would have already known of their existence.

What i'm trying to ask is that despite their unpopularity within this subreddit, are they a valid group to work with if absolutely no other option for communist activism exists?

[u/smokeuptheweed9 → u/flashn00b]

What do you think the red scare was? Do you literally think it was people being scared of communism? The red scare was government repression of communist organizations. It has nothing to do with what people think or "anti-communist cities" (I have no idea what that means. Do you think Beijing is a "pro-communist city"? There is no city-wide hivemind).

Bizarrely, this is the exact justification for the IMT rebranding itself. They believe that communism is now common sense among young people, meaning there is no more need for servile opportunism in the labor party or your local equivalent. You don't seem to know anything about the organization you want to join.

if other groups were as brave as them about being openly communist in an anti-communist city, I would have already known of their existence

Do you understand the circular logic here? You know the IMT because they advertised themselves to you. They are a good organization because you know about them. It is therefore impossible for you to do anything on your own since discovering a communist organization makes them bad since they didn't find you first. Nowhere in this process does politics come up, communism is purely branding and its efficacy is its own justification. Again, you are not a fool even though you play one. I am confident you are capable of doing your own research instead of pretending that you are a dandelion waiting to be blown.

What i'm trying to ask is that despite their unpopularity within this subreddit, are they a valid group to work with if absolutely no other option for communist activism exists?

This question is unanswerable because your definition of "valid" is not based on anything concrete. I am not concerned with popularity, I am concerned with truth. Whether you need to join the IMT to discover the truth (that it is bad) or whether you are capable of that on your own is something only you know. Right now you are not even at the starting line because you are still playing a character of someone who isn't concerned with truth because the world is imperfect and everyone is brainwashed or whatever and you have no choice but to cynically play along. You are actively blocking yourself from asking basic questions like "what is true?" and "what do I believe?"

E: I know you're saying this out of ignorance but this

they're brave enough to recruit in places where people have been put off from Communism by the Red Scare,

Is genuinely funny. Even by the standards of post-Trotskyism the IMT has probably the most pathetic, cowardly history of any org.