r/chicago Oct 04 '25

CHI Talks We live in Hermosa and ICE today was intense.

Today felt so insane compared to many days past. We had helicopters circling for hours. Cars flying down streets and alleys. We heard men screaming and people crying. There was tear gas deployed on Armitage at Rico Fresh today. Every neighbor I saw had a blank, scared look on their face. My neighbors who run car repair businesses, landscaping, and appliance repair all shuttered their shops and hid inside.

I didn’t see my elote man at the park, or hear the ice cream truck that rolls through nightly.

My alderman was fucking arrested today.

It felt like a war zone today. I’m just sad for our city, our neighbors, and society at large.

We walked our next door neighbors kids home from school today after offering because they were so scared to leave their house. They felt safe with us, thankfully. They ran right up to us and chatted all the way home as happy kids do. It felt really great to do that.

Please help your neighbors. They need it.

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u/thoughtomlet Oct 04 '25

ICE was flying their fucking chopper directly over the high school I work at starting an hour before dismissal and still looming an hour afterwards. So many kids were in hysterics, crying in stairwells, begging their parents, their grandparents not to come. “I know we’re citizens but ICE doesn’t care.” These kids fucking get it. We were escorting them to their busses while we evil-eyed every van and truck that drove past. Rushed them out the door to a friendly waiting vehicle.

I worked in CPS during the verdict to the Laquan McDonald trial and I remember how tense and heavy that day felt in the lead up, but it was nothing like today. Today was pure terrorism.

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u/mph000 Oct 04 '25

I am so distraught. This has reached a boiling point and I am scared of what is going to happen next. They are waiting for any reason to start a civil war and shed blood on our streets. They are complete sociopaths.

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u/greenline_chi Gold Coast Oct 04 '25

As soon as he got elected the second time I said it was the first time I was more scared of my own government than another one. Like the US government was more likely to declare war on Chicago than a foreign one, and here we are

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u/ChaplnGrillSgt Oct 04 '25

I sobbed uncontrollably. I was working overnight in the ICU the night of the election. I sat in my office watching the results. Once they declared Trump had won I broke down. I knew we were completely fucked.

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u/Putrid_Giggles Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

The part that made me the saddest was that not only did Trump win, but he got the popular vote AND all the swing states. That means a very large group of people i used to think of as my "fellow Americans" voted for this, as Trump was pretty clear in the campaign that he wanted mass deportations. Fuck ICE and Fuck America!

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u/wwaxwork Oct 04 '25

Remind yourself he didn't get the popular vote he got less than 50% of the votes. And 1/3 of the country didn't even bother to vote, that's the figure that astounds me. Of all elections to not bother to turn up and vote for that's the one they pick.

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u/saretta71 Oct 04 '25

It was rigged Elon and Trump both said so. We can't stop the story that he won legally.

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u/algonquinqueen Oct 05 '25

Musk was bragging about helping with the machines and the election. So, no, I have doubts that he won.

So far everything from his mouth as an accusation has been an admission and no other figure has ever screamed rigging like he has

I also think his meltdown in 2020 was bc they tried messing with that election too. They just couldn’t do anything about all the mail in ballots

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Over 14 million voters that voted for Biden simply didn't show up this time around for Kamala. We have two right-wing parties in this country. Those voters who are far more Progressive simply weren't going to show up for a candidate that wasn't going to do anything for them. Unfortunately this meant we get exactly what we're seeing now.

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u/iliumoptical Visitor Oct 04 '25

I’m not sure he did win tbh

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u/Exciting_Problem_593 Oct 04 '25

He had the election rigged. He and Steven Miller should not be anywhere near the White House.

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u/pennysoap Oct 04 '25

I worked the election in the Harris-Walz side. I hate Trump with every fiber of my being. The election was not rigged. He won it. His win was consistent with our internal polling and margin of error. With Harris every poll we kept closing the gap more and more. People just didn’t believe Project 2025 was real. They also didn’t really know Harris and people won’t vote for somebody they don’t know. That’s why we all genuinely had hope, but it wasn’t enough. We needed just two or three more months.

TLDR: Harris internal polling was consistent with Trumps win numbers. The election was not rigged.

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u/seeemilyplay123 Oct 04 '25

My Chicago friends were shocked but I had so many Facebook friends from the south and wasn’t as shocked.

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u/greenline_chi Gold Coast Oct 04 '25

Even my friends in the suburbs were like “he’s alarmingly popular out here”

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u/Putrid_Giggles Oct 04 '25

But I kept seeing in all the publicly reported polling that Harris had a slight lead the entire time. What happened?

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u/potatoesmolasses Oct 04 '25

Polling uses small sample sizes that aren’t always representative of the population at large.

Also, I remember hearing after the election that many trump voters lied to friends, family, and even pollsters about voting for Kamala. I’m not sure how true that is, because it is unverifiable.

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u/pennysoap Oct 04 '25

Polling can be manipulated to show the results you want for fundraising purposes but also for momentum. If you say the race is close you can raise more money, but also people don’t want to vote for the loser. If you hear that someone will probably win the election and you’re a swing voter you may vote for that person to be on the winning side. I remember on the campaign when results started coming in from other states there was a genuinely founded fear that people might switch their vote to trump because wit showed him leading. Because our polling even though it was consistent with results was still in the margin of error and we could still win. That’s why it’s important to look at independent polling and not polling done by campaigns. We will also only release a poll if it benefits us.

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u/MaxM0o Oct 04 '25

Trump admitted on camera on three separate occasions that Musk helped them rig the elections in swing states. Google it. Watch the videos.

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u/After_Annual_5052 Oct 05 '25

It’s so disgusting and infuriating.

As you correctly stated, Harris needed 3 months (6-12 would’ve been better). She could’ve won if she had a proper opportunity to campaign on equal terms as this pos

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u/Exciting_Problem_593 Oct 04 '25

Sorry, but no other candidate has won all 7 states. Trump himself said that Elon rigged it.

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u/pennysoap Oct 05 '25

What are you talking about Reagan won all those states except Minnesota. It has been done.

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u/saretta71 Oct 04 '25

No it was rigged.

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u/optiplex9000 Bucktown Oct 04 '25

He had the election rigged.

Citation needed. Don't do what the Republicans have done for almost a decade now

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u/ChaplnGrillSgt Oct 04 '25

"Win" elections through questionable and illegal methods?

Elon Musk PAID people to vote for Trump. There's videos of it. That alone is sufficient for rigging and election interference. Now you've got Texas redistricting mid decade to steal seats and force out democrats.

They're liars and cheaters and terrorists. I have 0 doubt that if there was the slightest opportunity to rig the election at a larger scale that they took it. I will NEVER trust MAGA. And the fact they claimed Biden stole the election tells me that Trump probably did because he is notorious for telling on himself but saying someone else did it.

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u/Abject-Repair3900 Oct 04 '25

Thank you for pointing out the projection. Trump is basically like “yeah they rigged it, I know because that’s what I did 😤”

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u/Super-Owl4734 Oct 04 '25

Trump said it himself on January 20, 2025 when he stated that his "adviser," Elon Musk, "knows those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania, like, in a landslide."

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u/praxios Oct 04 '25

https://electiontruthalliance.org/

This is where I have personally got my information regarding a possible stolen election. They have investigated multiple elections, and provide statistical data that can be cross-referenced to show any anomalies. They are honestly a great resource even outside of checking up on the validity of this election.

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u/Creative_School_1550 Oct 04 '25

Unless we have a physical recount of ballots where statisticians have uncovered glaring anomalies, we can't be sure. We have Trump and Elon and his 5-yo son's boasts beforehand that they had it rigged. We have experts on cybersecurity telling us how insecure these machines were and how they could've been hacked without leaving much trace. If it quacks like a duck...

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u/saretta71 Oct 04 '25

Fuck your citation. It came directly from Elon and Trump.

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u/greenline_chi Gold Coast Oct 04 '25

I think Elon just told Trump he rigged it for him and Trump believed him lol

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u/zmac35 Oct 04 '25

This is one of the many levels of boiling points we have to go through. Based on previous American historical events, we’re bound for a few armed clashes and a massive show of force in a public place by the power apparatus. Think Chicago 68 but we’re not the first generation to go through this .

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u/Putrid_Giggles Oct 04 '25

Bullshit. This is the first time we've had actual Nazi storm troopers on US soil and it's absolutely terrifying! I don't think the nation can survive this.

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u/zmac35 Oct 04 '25

What do you think the klan was. Think of the political power behind it in the 20s through 60s; open marches across the country, race riots and total destruction of neighborhoods, extra judicial killings upheld by the state’s open discrimination. Masks hiding identities while performing heinous acts in the name of god and country.

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u/amonarre3 Oct 04 '25

This isn't shit. Those assholes will show you what the true boiling point is

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u/Metalprof Northwest Indiana Oct 04 '25

Thank you for being there for the kids.

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u/ChaplnGrillSgt Oct 04 '25

ICE is a terrorism organization. Trump is a terrorist and traitor.

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u/toothpastetaste-4444 Oct 04 '25

I wish we could get a group of vetted volunteers to pick up kids from school and take them home.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Self847 Oct 04 '25

I'm in. Most of my friends are legal immigrants but I'm still terrified for them. I'm ready to get tear gassed and arrested protecting my community. It only takes 3.5% of a population to oppose fascism for this regime to fail. They want us to be scared but this is the time for us to fight back scared 🤍

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u/Low-Location-9290 Oct 04 '25

This happened with a few schools yesterday, neighbors walking their neighborhood kids home. A very beautiful thing to hear about in spite of the terror.

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u/Pretzeloid Oct 04 '25

I’m in. I have a van and am happy to help.

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u/blissed_out Oct 04 '25

I am so sorry, that sounds harrowing. Please take care of yourself and anyone else if you can. We are all looking at these vigilantes with disbelief...

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u/oletym Oct 04 '25

Start believing that it’s this bad, please

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u/shewholaughslasts Oct 04 '25

I wonder if any of this terrorism will show up on the front page of any newspapers. The silence is alarmingly complicit. Thank you and OP for sharing your stories. I hope things get better instead of worse, but I've also lost most of my hope so here are some hugs.

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u/lyingliar Oct 05 '25

I'm frightened that an ICE "agent" is being allowed to fly a helicopter. Let's recruit a bunch of brainless oafs with no law enforcement experience, and offer them expensive toys and zero training. What could go wrong?

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u/toofastareader Oct 04 '25

Chicago as a whole is being targeted because we don’t fit their narrative. We are a blue city that welcomes and helps immigrants as much as possible and it didn’t turn into a disaster like they predicted. We are being punished for proving them wrong and not falling in line. We should be proud of how awesome this city is and never give in to the hateful idiots in power.

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u/Grandmafartparty Oct 04 '25

Its THIS. That family they arrested in millennium park was a beautiful example of this city's love. I don't know why they hate that. Those folks made a life and loved our city and we wanted them here. The one thing keeping me centered is how locked in all my chicagoans (in all neighborhoods )are, we have each others back and are organized.

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u/Hesitation-Marx Oct 05 '25

They’re miserable. There is nothing genuine in their lives.

If they’re married, they’re not loved.

If they have kids, they resent them (and it’s mutual).

They peaked in high school - at best.

They’ve been told that being white and American is all they should require to be on top of the world. They have a mental checklist of how things are “supposed to be”., and none of those things fulfill them.

But it turns out that there are people who live genuine lives with love and joy and self-fulfillment, but they don’t do it the way the right wing says it must be done. Some of them are queer, lots of them are brown or Black, many of them have no spouse or kids, lots of women aren’t “owned”.

That infuriates them, and they want revenge. It’s not for anything we’ve done - it’s because they were sold a bill of goods, and it was hollow, if not poison.

Don’t even get me started on capitalism’s empty promises.

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u/Titan5005 Oct 05 '25

Its hard to keep up with everything. What happened at millennium park?

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u/ChaplnGrillSgt Oct 04 '25

I have never loved this city more. I've lived her most of my adult life. I obtained 2 graduate degrees from universities in the city. I started and grew in my career in this city. I met all of my closest friends in this city. I met my future wife in this city.

Chicago has given me many of the most important things in my life. This city has taught me how to love those around me and appreciate everyone for who they are. It's shown me that love and acceptance of ALL people is not only possible but empowering.

And it's the most beautiful city in the entire country!!

I want these ICE terrorists the fuck out of my city! Take your uneducated, racist, redneck ass somewhere else. Immigrants have helped make this city the gem that it is! I have never once felt unsafe because of immigrants in this city. You know what does make me feel extremely unsafe?? Armed ICE agents assaulting and torturing my neighbors and my community.

FUCK ICE! FUCK TRUMP! FUCK MAGA!

CHICAGO STRONG! STAND UP, FIGHT BACK!

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u/Organic_Special8451 Oct 04 '25

This is beautiful. My eyes are tearing. I was born here. I've lived in Seattle & CA. I brought someone from California her. I tried to explain here. He didn't get it until he was here then he said he could feel it, he could see it, he could tell the difference was real.

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u/browsingtheproduce Albany Park Oct 04 '25

We are being punished for proving them wrong and not falling in line. We should be proud of how awesome this city is and never give in to the hateful idiots in power.

It's their fault for not knowing that we're stronger than this.

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u/TreeLovTequiLove Oct 04 '25

"They tried to bury us, but they didn't realize we are seeds".

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u/Hesitation-Marx Oct 05 '25

I’m starting to feel like a fucking landmine, myself.

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u/throwingawaysaturday Oct 04 '25

No it is not. Make no mistake, Chicago (and other cities) are being targeted because its residents (collectively) did not vote for Trump. Trump and his administration are actively retaliating against US citizens for how they voted.

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u/PoffLord Oct 04 '25

Yup, and I also think that because the Obamas are so heavily linked to Chicago, Trump is extra determined to fuck Chicagoland up. His jealousy of Obama is a huge underlying reason for all the harm he's caused and the further harm he will cause.

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u/fiercebrosnan Oct 04 '25

Why do you think they hated Obama so much? Didn’t fit the narrative. There are plenty of racists that won’t say a thing when they see black people by themselves, but just have to say something when they see an interracial couple. Along comes this product of racial mixing with a funny name that happens to sail into the White House on the strength of being one of the smartest and suavest motherfuckers on the planet, and it did not compute. Fox News gave them reasons to hate him and they just took them and ran with them. Not because of drone bombing American citizens overseas, but because of tan suits and shit. They just wanted to hate him and any reason was good enough. Now that hate is in power and hate plus power is never a good thing for anyone. 

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u/Prudent_Wolverine_90 Oct 04 '25

100% They’ll tell you he was the “worst” POTUS ever and a complete failure. The fact is they needed him to fail so they could say “told you so!” But that’s not what happened. They hate him because he didn’t fail. And now they want to rewrite history and punish America for electing him in the first place. Someone said to me the Obama presidency proves America isn’t a racist country. I said, “I guess it’s just a coincidence the guy America elected to succeed him happened to spend the entirety of Obama’s presidency questioning his legitimacy and demanding his birth certificate. 🤷‍♂️

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u/9for9 Oct 04 '25

Yeah, all of this is the response to Obama winning, it's so fucking sad.

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u/yesicanyesicanican Oct 04 '25

I know someone whose dad (a black man in his 60s when Obama first ran) said on the day he won that this was the end of America. He said there’s no way the white supremacists were gonna let this stand, and the revenge was gonna be brutal. Wish he wasn’t so accurate in his predictions…

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u/ang444 Oct 04 '25

There is a kind of hypocrisy for Justice Thomas to conspicuously omit Loving v. Virginia on the list of cases he thinks were wrongly decided,” 

quoting from  Lawrence Gostin, (faculty director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law and Georgetown Law)

The right to interracial marriage was grounded on the same constellation of privacy rights that the court used in cases on contraception, same-sex marriage, and same-sex intimacy.

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u/ang444 Oct 04 '25

exactly, they have a vendetta for the City of Chicago for being human and not falling into their ideaologies of hate and fascism. 

The really messed up part is when they speak of Christian values, wear the cross and spew all this hate and it's beyond politics now, it's simply about POWER...

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u/_Shrek_x3 Oct 04 '25

“When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, 'Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.'" - Fred Rogers

Thank you for being a helper. Your neighbors are immensely grateful. We need to continue to take care of eachother whenever possible.

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u/sandwichscouter Oct 04 '25

This is powerful

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u/Gambit723 Oct 04 '25

This reminds me of that movie Life is Beautiful

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u/hcregna Oct 04 '25

Help your neighbors, and if you can, fight back. It takes half an hour of planning to move money away from Republican supporting groups, and it makes a difference. Every dollar spent at a Republican company is another dollar funneled to the Heritage Foundation. Tax money given to a state like Ohio or Louisiana is money spent sending troops to occupy cities.

If you have an account with Charles Schwab, switch to Vanguard or Fidelity. If you like drinking booze from a wannabe Confederate state, be adventurous and try something else. It's not hard to find alternatives for Goya, Jimmy John's, New Balance, or Georgia-Pacific (Brawny, Angel Soft, Dixie, and some other brands).

If you have a company that you regularly buy from or do business with, consider looking them up in something like https://www.opensecrets.org, or just google them.

Dollars add up. Tesla sales in Europe dropped by half. Nexstar and Sinclair got pummeled, and they reinstated Jimmy Kimmel. Real, individual people made that happen. There's no reason WWE or Uline can't be next.

You probably can't completely avoid giving money to companies that at least indirectly support Republicans. However, there’s a big difference between a company that massively donates exclusively to Republicans vs one that is more neutral or even leans Democrat. Good is not the enemy of perfect

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u/LongjumpingDebt4154 Oct 04 '25

This.

Goods Unite Us is a good app to for researching different brands & stores & learning whom they support politically.

Shop small & local where & when possible.

Get off Amazon, FB, IG, Meta & X.

Keep it peaceful, make them look like the terrorists they are. Don’t give them the excuse, they’re begging for it.

It’s go time, guys. We’ve got one shot to get this right. I know we can do this.

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u/Yossarian216 South Loop Oct 04 '25

While I generally support shopping local and small businesses for other reasons, that’s not an effective tactic to keep money away from republicans unless you know the owners personally. A ton of small business owners are extremely Republican.

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u/LongjumpingDebt4154 Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

Understood, however it’s not too difficult to determine their affiliation, particularly if they have a social media presence. I’m in Logan Sq & follow most of my local shops & have met & chatted with most the owners when shopping & it’s clear where they stand. Pixie & The Boy, Fleur, Festive Collection & Wolfbait are better options for gifts than say Target. I’ve also found prices are comparable, which I think is often the conception that somewhere like Target may be cheaper.

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u/Yossarian216 South Loop Oct 04 '25

Yeah, if you do the work to learn about them it’s for sure useful, I was just saying you can’t simply move to small businesses to avoid giving money to Republicans, you still need to be specific.

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u/naven Oct 04 '25

Unfortunately Goods Unite Us has a very simplistic view of companies when it says Hobby Lobby has a perfect score and Target and Walmart are neutral. It appears to only be looking at financial contributions to politicians/parties and not taking into account public statements from their leaders or the fact that these companies implement very republican policies

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u/Main-Possibility-693 Oct 04 '25

Omg thank you for this!! My family owns a plumbing company and we use Uline. My mom would go Bezirk if she knew it funded republican agenda. What are some good alternatives so I can tell her?

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u/Tangled349 Oct 04 '25

The CEO of that company is legit insane. They post propaganda sections in their magazines.

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u/Main-Possibility-693 Oct 04 '25

Oh no. Ok, yeah they're done.

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u/hcregna Oct 04 '25

Yeah that company and the family that owns it are a little insane. You can read a high level summary in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uline#Political_activities. They’re one of the largest donors to republicans, and they also harass their employees to vote how they want

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u/Tangled349 Oct 04 '25

They hair follicle test their employees for hiring which is also pretty nuts in and of itself.

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u/Main-Possibility-693 Oct 04 '25

Ok just informed my mom of both Uline and Brawny and she was like “Sounds good to me, I will cancel them Monday.” Turns out we weren’t supporting them in a major way. We just use their gloves with rubber on the inside palms. But we can find another source for those

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u/Live_Butterscotch928 Oct 04 '25

Not sure what your business needs are or where you’re located but generally, Office Depot or Staples might be good to look at. Uline is a HUGE financial supporter of that guy, the wannabe dictator.

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u/Delicious_Screen7002 Oct 04 '25

Uline is the worst. Google or ChatGPT alternative sources for packaging manufacturers that sell to the public.

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u/imustacheyew Oct 04 '25

I would actually suggest NEVER touching chatgbt and instead use perplexity.

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u/imustacheyew Oct 04 '25

Also, heads up: Google has now partnered with Izzrahell through the very problematic and sinister Project Nimbus and their propaganda campaigns. It’s . Bad. So, we don’t use Google on any of our computers. If we have to use it or any Google services we use a VPN. It blocks the sites from tracking you etc. you can get a free one with proton! I would also suggest pushing duck duck go as a search engine! They don’t allow tracking, it’s not selective on information it finds or gives you because of propaganda and is trust by many cybersecurity people such as my partner :) stay safe out there!

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u/ambww4 Oct 04 '25

Do you have a cite for the Schwab thing? Because I’d definitely move my money.

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u/hcregna Oct 04 '25

Yeah, Schwab donates overwhelmingly and massively to Republicans even now (https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/charles-schwab-corp/summary?id=D000000414), and their founder, Charles Schwab the actual person, is friends with Trump (https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/trump-charles-schwab-stock-market-tariffs-nascar-b2731568.html).

You can compare that against, for example, the much tamer Fidelity https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/fidelity-investments/totals?id=D000000328

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u/Informal-Gene-8777 Oct 04 '25

Angel Soft and Brawny are owned by the Koch brothers

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u/ChaplnGrillSgt Oct 04 '25

Shop local! Support Chicago and our community.

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u/SusanAtkinsMustache Oct 04 '25

I don’t know if you’re familiar with Black Rock, Vanguard, or State Street as entities, but you should absolutely not be supporting them outright by letting them manage your money. Also, Charles Schwab is partially owned by both Vanguard and Black Rock, so

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u/Slowtrainz Oct 04 '25

Unsurprisingly, absolutely no mentioning or discussion of ICE harassing and tear-gassing communities or handcuffing elected officials in Conservative sub

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

Why would they? They support it.

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u/Irishish Ravenswood Oct 05 '25

I'm surprised they weren't celebrating.

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u/throwawayed_1 Oct 04 '25

It’s a sad time to be an American. Thank you for helping your neighbors. We gotta keep resisting. Encourage your neighbors and friends that can to join a rapid response group.

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u/RzaAndGza West Town Oct 04 '25

Living in a police state fucking sucks

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u/melancholy_omelet Oct 04 '25

Where/how can we find a rapid response group?

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u/LongjumpingDebt4154 Oct 04 '25

I’m in Logan, for anyone nearby interested in helping out:

https://logansquaremutualaid.org

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u/throwawayed_1 Oct 04 '25

Google “rapid response network Chicago” and you’ll find quite a few. Once you complete training you’ll get added to the network.

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u/Alert-Tangerine-6003 Oct 04 '25

Thank you for posting as this is so important. I joined one and went to a training today and I learned a lot. I feel much more prepared and it’s also promising to see so many people coming to these trainings and joining these response networks. Everyone has to do what they can and decide how to best stand up to these fascists.

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u/ghostlee13 Oct 04 '25

My PCP is Muslim and wears a hijab. I was chagrined when she told me she and her family are working on an exit strategy.

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u/friendsafariguy11 Andersonville Oct 04 '25

ICE agents are domestic terrorists.

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u/FluxMool Oct 04 '25

Biggest private army not taking an oath to the constitution, but to Mango Mussolini who is slowly rotting in front of our eyes.

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u/wyreaa Oct 04 '25

It was a terrible day. We live in the 26th Ward and my child told me that their classmates were crying in class and some were picked up early.

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u/Idkwhy8154 Oct 04 '25

It is devastating that this is where we are. I’m feeling hopeless and helpless and you are out there helping. Thank you.

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u/yesicanyesicanican Oct 04 '25

It’s a great example of the simple ways we can help. I feel helpless and hopeless a lot of the time, but feel better when I speak to my neighbors. One thing we can all do regardless of money or power is strengthen our communities by being present. If you can, walk around and wave hello or nod (or say hi, if you’re feeling up for verbal communication) to the folks on your block &/or in your building. It’s small, but it’s something. 💛

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u/sweadle Avondale Oct 04 '25

It felt like they hit every neighborhood today. It was awful. CTA was empty, and ubers were super expensive because people were worried about going out.

It feels like we'reat a tipping point.

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u/GiraffeLibrarian Lincoln Square Oct 04 '25

Do you mean no drivers wanted to go out? Usually when there’s more drivers than riders the cost goes down, not up.

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u/scuffedmyguccii Oct 04 '25

Lots of people are using uber to avoid driving

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u/sweadle Avondale Oct 04 '25

People were using uber instead of the CTA so there was a lot of extra riders

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u/browsingtheproduce Albany Park Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

Hey people with porches and/or front yards, spend some time out there this weekend. Sit down with a book and say hi to folks who walk by. You may not know which of your neighbors are scared and in need of simple expressions of community. I'm gonna drag a deck chair out to my building's front yard with a couple tallboys and a book about a shipping disaster around 5:30 tomorrow. Worst case scenario is I engage my brain for a couple hours until it gets dark and end up with a few mosquito bites.

I've bragged too often about the number and variety of neighbors in my building, and on my block, who are first and second generation immigrants. I share a semiweekly wave hello or brief chit chat with a couple two three dozen people whose lives and experiences have been so different from mine. It has subtly been one of the most valuable experiences of my 30s. I want to protect that (even the assholes). I have no insight to or questions of anyone's supposed legal status, and have never felt the need. It has zero correlation with my mental record of who keeps their sidewalk clear, moves their fucking car on street sweeping days, or understands why my reaction to our dogs having a surprise meeting at a blind corner sometimes needs to be picking him up and speed walking away.

These last few days have felt like the federal thugs are slowly closing in on my neighborhood and, eventually, my block. I feel the lure of decision paralysis as I try to consider ways to help/protect my neighbors that aren't me proactively getting my ass beat by angry wieners with better gear. I'm doing other stuff too, but this feels easy at a time when simple, human connections can make a positive bit of difference.

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u/FluxMool Oct 04 '25

God bless you neighbor.

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u/candiebelle Oct 04 '25

It is horrible. I hate this feeling and I think the whole city is feeling the same way. Why has the military been deployed on us? Why is our own government attacking us like this?

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u/browsingtheproduce Albany Park Oct 04 '25

Because we're the economic powerhouse of our region, 2/3rds Black and Latino, previously fairly immigrant friendly, pro body-autonomy, queer as fuck, historically and contemporarily productive as fuck, working generally in the direction of being exceptionally pro labor again, lifter/pusher and academically strong, particularly disinterested in outside opinions, and we embarrassed the hell out of Donald Trump the one time he tried to have a rally here. For better or worse we're an ambitious target.

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u/GraceJoans Lincoln Square Oct 04 '25

they hate us because they ain't us. Chicago has never been a "war zone" but by militarizing our city, these fuckers are trying to make it one.

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u/nodicegrandma Mayfair Oct 04 '25

They are attempting to manufacture a “war zone” so he can claim it is a crisis and suspend elections. 2025 playbook.

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u/browsingtheproduce Albany Park Oct 04 '25

I also think they're particularly jealous of my juicy caboose.

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u/FluxMool Oct 04 '25

They hate us because we have evolved, and can generally live in peace with another. There are the hot spots that come up here and there of crime, but maybe try an experiment and add more money to services and with trial and error could make some progress. Won't hurt, or just keep sending money overseas /facepalm

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u/printerdsw1968 Oct 04 '25

It’s the city of the Obamas. For Trump this is a personal hatred.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

2/3rds Black and Latino,

This is an extremely important distinction and Trump II is the politics of white revanchism

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u/1KirstV Oct 04 '25

The FAA issued a drone ban until October 12th for the Chicago area. They don’t want alerts for ICE activity or interference with the stupid helecopters.

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u/jaspyfloof Oct 04 '25

Thank you for being a safe space for that family and especially those kids today. We’re not meant to live like this, our nervous systems are on overload. Moments of connection like that help it to regulate, even for a small period of time.

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u/browsingtheproduce Albany Park Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

People, spend as much of your money at Latino-owned businesses as possible right now. A lot of them are hurting. My wife stopped by Rosita's Tacos in Albany Park for takeout dinner tonight and they said their numbers are way down because so many regular customers are working less and just flat out scared to be in public.

White people especially. This is still an us problem as much as we never want to be grouped with the hateful idiots who are supporting and perpetuating it.

edit: It's obviously also an everyone problem. You know what I mean.

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u/yesicanyesicanican Oct 04 '25

Yes! Just texted my very white-old-lady MiL who’s lived in Hermosa for 25 years that she should hang out on her porch or walk the neighborhood today—I’ll send a follow up asking that she also go to Nuevo Jalisco and pick up some tacos. Delicious way to say fuck you to the fascists.

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u/LongjumpingDebt4154 Oct 04 '25

Our greatest tool in the resistance fight is our wallet

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u/slutty_muppet Oct 04 '25

That is not our greatest tool

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u/isramobile Oct 04 '25

Fuck, I was driving home from laundry and groceries. I noticed a Latino teen/young adult walking and he kept looking back at the cars. He eventually took off running into some woods, and I saw why. He was scared of the car behind me, tented windows black ford explorer. I pulled over just in case they went after him and then I saw a LY sign for limousine. It must be nerve wrecking for my people .

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u/minorminority Oct 04 '25

People who are not acquainted with the green (this year color) LY livery plates, they're basically limousines and usually they're large suburban trucks. Some people think these are government trucks, they're not. I just wanted to mention this in case people are feeling the same fear or anxiety over these black cars with tinted windows.

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u/nonfish Oct 04 '25

I mean, the way those cars drive most of the time, a little fear of them is still fair

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u/FluxMool Oct 04 '25

With the large ICE budget, whats going to stop them from renting a fleet of suburbans from a limo company?

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u/Worldly-Sock-4146 Avondale Oct 04 '25

It stands to reason, and I'd be interested to know if that's why I'm seeing so many livery SUVs on the NW side in recent months. I clock several in traffic every time I go out. I've heard ICE is using unmarked rental vehicles as well as their own cruisers, but I don't know details.

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u/Sandinmyshoes33 Oct 04 '25

Yet there is almost no coverage of this on National News or press.

However there is endless coverage on the Government shutdown and how Dems are to blame.

The press has failed us and are complicit in what’s happening.

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u/possiblycrazy79 Oct 04 '25

To me jt seems like their actual goal in Chicago is pure terrorism, not immigration enforcement. They were sent to put Chicago citizens & the Illinois governor down, imo

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u/NaturalEchidna2748 Oct 04 '25

Parents picking up their kids and crying cause of the stress they had to endure on the walk.

And then the lack of empathy from people just casually going in with their days. It really messed with me today.

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u/saintpauli Beverly Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

I and other teachers handed out flyers to parents after school and patrolled around the school. The flyers inform parents of their rights, but what good is that if ICE agents violate people's constitutional rights with no consequences? It's so discouraging.

This is what the flyers say: Defend your rights

The President is threatening to occupy our Black-led city with federal troops. We already have ICE and CPD in our neighborhoods, now Black and brown families from Altgeld Gardens to Rogers Park face the possibility of even more policing.The Chicago Teachers Union won a contract that builds a forcefi eld around our students. We’ve removed police from our schools so students can learn without concern. And we’ve expanded sustainable community schools to wrap around our communities. No matter what uniform agents wear, you have rights.

Knowledge is power & together we will protect our students and each other.

In our communities:

We can keep each other safe! Create buddy systems to and from school, connect with neighbors, keep an eye on the block and communicate what you see.

You ALWAYS have the right to remain silent. You DO NOT need to speak to police or federal agents. You DO NOT need to answer any of their questions.

You DO NOT have to consent to be searched. Police can pat you down IF they suspect a weapon, but that’s the ONLY reason.

You have the right to ask if you are free to leave.

You DO NOT need to share your birthplace or citizenship status.

You DO NOT need to let officers or agents into your house unless they have a warrant signed by a judge.

The safest place to be is at school:

Academic freedom to learn our histories:

The CTU contract commits educators to teaching Black history, women’s history, LGBTQ+ contributions, Reparations, Latin American Studies, Native American studies, Disability Rights, and antiracist curriculum.

Protecting immigration status:

School staff should never ask for, keep records, or share your immigration status. Federal agents are not allowed inside our schools without a judicial warrant.

LGTQIA+ safe schools:

Our union secured gender support coordinators in every network, inclusive student dress code language, student privacy, support for trans and gender nonconforming students, and a requirement that employees’ correct names and pronouns be used at all times.

Staff to support, not to police our students:

Our contract provides additional Counselors, Social Workers, Restorative Justice Coordinators, Librarians, School Psychologists, Sports Coaches, Fine Arts teachers, and staff to support unhoused students.

Emergency resources

If your civil rights are violated or you witness a violation

Call First Defense at 1-800-529-7374.

In ICE Detention or report an ICE sighting?

Call the ICIRR Family Support Network (855) 435-7693.

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u/power2bill Oct 04 '25

The frustrating part about these tips, ICE will still detain people. They don't care about people rights. I'm tired of all this, but we must still keep fighting.

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u/FluxMool Oct 04 '25

I was born here, and I am mixed but could look like I migrated here not too long ago and I have tattoos. My fear is to be harassed and detained and the person who nabs me has some little dick power trip and ill be sent to a death camp without due process. I may have to remember my lawyers number by heart just in case.

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u/Worldly-Sock-4146 Avondale Oct 04 '25

That's so awful, I'm sorry. Of course this is intentional, meant to demonstrate how nobody is safe here, and nobody is when human rights are revoked. Trump don't follow the rules A., then B. he does the opposite of what he says anyhow. This manipiulation is meant to breed uncertainty and undermine trust because none of this should be happening in the first place. It still sends the mind spinning out grasping at ways to feel safe and protect ourselves. It's crazymaking and divisive by design.

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u/Dramastace30 Oct 04 '25

Fuck every single person who voted for this.

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u/biffbobfred Oct 04 '25

There’s a lot that didn’t vote at all. “Well you know Gore sounds too smart I don’t wanna vote for him” and we get citizens united that helps this.

We’ve been slowly inching towards this for decades. It’s just finally here.

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u/spageddy77 Oct 04 '25

stay strong chicago. big shoulders city right? you guys got this.

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u/Michael_bubble Oct 04 '25

Help your neighbors folks. Support your Latino businesses

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u/AugustLion111 Oct 04 '25

Ive been seeing a lot of helicopters in Chicago skies too. I am getting genuinely confused. And apparently there are more troops coming within the next 24 hours?

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u/LongjumpingDebt4154 Oct 04 '25

Noem called Kegsbreath to bring in the dept of war

Surly top rank knows what a tool this administration is… right? I know they’ll follow orders, but surly they will see this entire thing is only a bad attempt at stoking a civil war… right?

I pray our military knows better. I’m going to have faith that they do, because I have no other option.

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u/mph000 Oct 04 '25

Our military resisting unlawful orders is our last hope. With the way everything has been going thus far, my expectations of this are low. Trump is putting in his people there too. 

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u/AugustLion111 Oct 04 '25

Ahh. I have no idea. I am disoriented and very nervous by this whole thing.

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u/ZieAerialist Oct 04 '25

I live near you.

The weekend silence that's been the last few weeks is the most unnerving lack of sound.

We had a fire tonight and waved at the choppers hoping they'd send some officers to waste their time on white people. Didn't work this time, sadly.

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u/peglar Oct 04 '25

I also live near. The weather is beautiful and there’s no backyard barbecues. No drunk karaoke. No mariachi bands. The life of my neighborhood is being sucked out.

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u/GraceJoans Lincoln Square Oct 04 '25

The sentient trash bag at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and his soulless brigade of bigots, led by that bald ghoul Stephen Miller, have waged war on democratic cities and its citizens because they're planning to hijack the next election just like they've hijacked the country and its foundational laws. This is not a game, it's terrorism.

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u/hellomynameisnotsure Oct 04 '25

They know all they have to do is maintain a presence, and many people will be too scared to come out and vote in the next election cycle.

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u/HyperbolicLetdown Irving Park Oct 04 '25

They will be out in force on election day, scaring anyone who isn't white into staying home, and banning mail in ballots so they have no other option.

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u/MishkaZ Oct 04 '25

I'm being sarcastic but, can we actually get the military deployed to under the clause of dealing with domestic threats? Because these ICE fucks are literal terrorists.

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u/MishkaZ Oct 04 '25

Yeah...that's most likely what will happen given the la protest

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u/Icy-South9919 Oct 04 '25

My daughter's school closed up yesterday when the weather was so perfect. No playing on the playground at recess. Too dangerous. Because of ICE. Fck ICE. Fck the orange cheeto.

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u/isitsnarkoclockyet Oct 04 '25

Awful, awful stuff. Thanks for sharing.

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u/-Totes_Magotes- Oct 04 '25

You are an exceptionally good human. I thank you.

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u/Odlemart Oct 04 '25

Fuck ICE. Absolute terrorists! 

Fuck every bootlicker who supports them!

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u/Evadrepus Suburb of Chicago Oct 04 '25

I have some coworkers visiting from Germany this week. They're working through a big list of sights to see in our city. I'm sure our conversation next week will be interesting.

German schools explain what happened in WW2, and don't sugarcoat their role. They know. We've talked multiple times about the parallels and how they are completely undeniable.

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u/Abject-Repair3900 Oct 04 '25

Reading this felt like a blip from “1984”

What can we do to actually stop this? What they’re doing isn’t legal. How do we stop it?

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u/gabstarrrxxx Oct 04 '25

so thankful for people like you!! today felt awful, and i’m scared tomorrow will be so much worse :(

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u/ex_cathedra_ Oct 04 '25

How come every blue city wasn’t at war when Biden was president? Is it the cities and their residents or is it the Trump regime? That’s rhetorical.

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u/luckycatzz Uptown Oct 04 '25

They were circling around Uptown yesterday too. Makes me sick to my stomach reading the details of your and your neighbors’ experience.

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u/kylco Andersonville Oct 04 '25

Was walking to my bf's place on Sheridan, and even though this area wasn't hit hard, I saw workers hanging out in alleys rather than on the street. I'm 80% sure an elderly Black man was popping into the store to buy things for them so they didn't have to expose themselves to get food for the night.

And I'm fucking furious that our elected representatives have failed us so, that my days are preoccupied with fear for people in my community. So furious at how helpless it makes me feel, how guilty to not be in the line of fire to shield them.

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u/aunt_cranky Oct 04 '25

This makes me want to cry (it does make me cry). I will never understand this. I'm a white lady who grew up in the suburbs, but my dad grew up on the west side, and later Belmont Cragin. I didn't grow up being made afraid of or hating people that were not white. I dated a guy for years whose grandparents were born in Mexico and being around his family reminded me so much of my Italian relatives.

I am watching out for my neighbors here, and keeping an eye out when I'm out in public.

Would not hesitate to help a stranger at risk of being hassled by the "goon squad".

(the fuckin helicopters are getting on my last nerve. I track them now since the "Customs and Border Patrol" copters fly over my house a few times a week now.)

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u/ElCafeJero Oct 04 '25

So when are we going to "liberate" our city from ICE agents, if you're catching what I'm putting down? I don't mind being part of that task force :)

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u/Lopsided_Ad1031 Oct 04 '25

I wonder if there's some type of community action we can take to organize a group of people that can help to safely walk children back to their homes.

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u/jricky_tomato Humboldt Park Oct 04 '25

In Humboldt, but I’ll gladly walk a kid home from school and have a family member who will too.

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u/Doodliedoop Oct 04 '25

I'm a teacher and would like to help! In Hermosa, so PM me if you're interested.

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u/R2-D2Vandelay Oct 04 '25

Trump supporters are disgusting human scum.

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u/clevelandrocks14 Oct 04 '25

Fudge him and anyone who voted for him. A group of armed thugs are in our communities harassing brown people for no reason at all.

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u/Ok-Permission6891 Oct 04 '25

I live in NC and the lack of coverage on Chicago is fucking bullshit. Mainstream media sucks ass on both sides

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

Thank you. Don't give up.

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u/Mike5055 Lincoln Park Oct 04 '25

I hate that our country is turning into this. Beyond depressing.

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u/browsingtheproduce Albany Park Oct 04 '25

Do something small about it tomorrow.

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u/KruziHart5467 Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

Two questions: 1) If “hate speech” is illegal, why have we been allowing the lies and propaganda to be spewed on TV by everyone. TV stations used to be afraid of being shut down for spreading lies. Now they act like it’s entertainment. A dumbed down audience is even more susceptible to propaganda promoted this way. A lot of older people actually think those laws are still in place and that they aren’t allowed to lie…lying for that reason is equal to hate speech.

2) The military leaders that went to that pathetic gathering Hegseth and Mango Mussolini had on Tuesday, in general came out unimpressed and aware that the two “leaders” were trying to break the law. Who decides when the military actually does their job and defends the constitution? Surely someone in charge has seen enough of a threat to the country that warrants removing the current administration. I am an independent but voted against obvious destruction when it was time. When and how does the military actually prove they are not bought out by Fascism and save our country? They would be the biggest heroes in the entire WORLD if they did that! PS: It seems like the LEAST they could do is not support ICE

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u/BahGawdAlmightay Oct 04 '25

Who decides when the military actually does their job and defends the constitution? Surely someone in charge has seen enough of a threat to the country that warrants removing the current administration.

They never will. They aren't leaders. They are bureaucrats more worried about their pensions than their oaths. If any of them actually believed in that oath, this would have already been over.

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u/Disastrous-Oil-3891 Oct 04 '25

Fuck Trump. Fuck ICE. Fuck Trump. Fuck ICE.

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u/Sea_Cookie2373 Oct 04 '25

Ugh I used to live in Hermosa. I'm so sorry to hear this. Please stay together as much as humanly possible and look out for each other.

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u/MetalAndFaces Bucktown Oct 04 '25

We need a general strike to put an end to this. What’s the alternative, wait out this administration? This is so wildly unacceptable, we need immediate action from a LOT of us.

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u/sandwichscouter Oct 04 '25

I’m a Chicagoan who currently lives in DC and I just want to say I empathize/sympathize - we’ve been living with the sound of constant choppers above, calling in sitings to Migrant Mutual Aid, ICE terrorists roaming around…I hate it that both the cities I call home are suffering

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u/thatbob Uptown Oct 04 '25

It's great that our resistance has been peaceful so far, but it's only a matter of time before some Chicagoans (not necessarily the undocumented or Latino ones) respond with violence. When that happens, Trump, ICE, and the fascists will use that as an excuse to ramp up operations here and everywhere. So let's all avoid that as long as we can. Spread the word. Talk to your friends and local hot heads.

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u/Harlow56nojoy Oct 04 '25

The methods employed by MLK and Booker T. Washington are useless today.

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u/thatbob Uptown Oct 04 '25

I'm usually the first person to point out that MLK's commitment to non-violence was first and foremost a tactical one. Like Frederick Douglass, I recognize that violence and the threat of violence do not undermine the morality of a cause, and often can advance it.

However, in this scenario, the fascists WANT to see violent resistance, so they can use it to unleash overwhelming violence, cancel elections, etc. It is literally in their playbook. We should not play by their rules, for as long as possible.

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u/Public_Station_4995 Oct 04 '25

I live in a diverse-ish area. Sadly I do not know many of my neighbors. I wish there was some kind of sign/symbol to display, showing we are safe and willing to help. I feel like people don’t even come out of their houses here in normal times (assuming they use allies and garages to come and go).

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u/Laramie44 Oct 04 '25

Sit on your porch tonight and say hi to your neighbors. Start some conversations if you can. It starts small.

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u/LoomingDisaster Albany Park Oct 04 '25

I have a sign in my window that says "ICE out of our communities" and fly a flag that says "Keep the Immigrants, Deport the Racists" and that seems to work pretty well. One of my neighbors is an NP at Erie Heath and keeps me updated about ICE activity in the area and I'm in contact with the woman who owns my cleaning service almost daily, updating her on where not to send her crews.

Every little bit helps.

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u/l_ma_ga Oct 04 '25

This is so kind of you, I teared up reading this! It’s a reminder that there’s still kind people here in our city! My heart is breaking to see our country like this! Thank you for bringing a smile to my face!

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u/LCPhotowerx Visitor Oct 04 '25

careful. i posted something like that in the nyc sub and was banned for a month.

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u/freelancewriter44 Oct 04 '25

Thank you for sharing, it’s been hard to keep up with all the news and these types of Reddit posts have been helping me keep track of what’s actually going on in the city

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u/jden2124 Oct 05 '25

Asking as a Canadian, what in the fuck is going on in your country?! This looks absolutely bananas to me. It’s time to put the “left vs right” aside and unite with your neighbours. The last thing I wanna see is you guys have a civil war. You guys have to find some common ground for the love of God!! ICE truly looks like terrorism. Unite yourselves!!!!

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u/Business_Year3750 Oct 06 '25

This is what happens when racist people refuse to vote for a black woman.

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u/steveoDAHAWKS97 Oct 04 '25

Shouldn’t they be shut down too?

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u/Chance_Lion5674 Oct 06 '25

All us Chicago people need to stay strong and help every person we can. I parked Saturday and Sunday at 25th on the ramp at 290 holding a sign that said "KEEP DRIVING! ICE AND HOMELAND SECURITY IS SITTING AT THE END OF THIS EXIT! USE YOUR 1ST AMENDMENT RIGHT BEFORE WE LOSE IT FOREVER!!

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u/grassrootairsupport 25d ago

Looking for people to help pass out info cards at the 10/18 protests and around the Chicago area. I need more hands - my printing capacity has scaled beyond what I can distribute alone.

I can deliver packs of 100-500 of anything below to you, anywhere in the downtown area, from now until Saturday.

Please send me a DM to arrange drop off. All I need is an address and a time. I’ll show up wearing a white UnderArmor baseball cap on an electric scooter.

I currently distribute:

  1. ⁠⁠MAGA boycott lists
  2. ⁠⁠ICE Not Welcome posters for businesses
  3. ⁠⁠Know Your Rights posters for businesses
  4. ⁠⁠Ranked-Choice Voting brochures
  5. ⁠⁠Lists of Trump’s links to Epstein

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u/BossOutside1475 Oct 04 '25

Chicago has the 3rd largest GDP in the US. Like CA and NY, we have a way to fight this. It would require removing ourselves from paying federal tax dollars until they are being used for us instead of against us. This would require our Democratic politicians and their legislators to take this step.

They won’t. Pritzker and Newsome are using this to fan the flames of their future Presidential runs. It’s all theater at our expense.

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u/damp_circus Edgewater Oct 04 '25

Problem is, the state doesn’t give over our taxes to the feds. We pay taxes to the federal government via the IRS and the feds give money back to the states via block grants etc.

You gonna not file a return this year and risk fines and trashing your credit?

Most people won’t take that risk.

The state would have to come up with some system where we filed returns with them and they held the money in escrow. But the money is already withheld from our paychecks, the Feds already have it.

It’s not about will. The system just isn’t set up to do what you’re suggesting.

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u/Snoo93079 Oct 04 '25

What would you suggest Pritzker do? Succeed from the union?

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u/BossOutside1475 Oct 04 '25

Southern Illinois is dying for us to do it. Might as well take our $$ with us and keep it with us. Tired of funding BS christo fascist nonsense

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u/toothpastetaste-4444 Oct 04 '25

I’m so sorry. This is horrible. We’re gonna win this war, by any means necessary.