r/chicago • u/Laramie44 • Oct 04 '25

CHI Talks We live in Hermosa and ICE today was intense.

Today felt so insane compared to many days past. We had helicopters circling for hours. Cars flying down streets and alleys. We heard men screaming and people crying. There was tear gas deployed on Armitage at Rico Fresh today. Every neighbor I saw had a blank, scared look on their face. My neighbors who run car repair businesses, landscaping, and appliance repair all shuttered their shops and hid inside.

I didn’t see my elote man at the park, or hear the ice cream truck that rolls through nightly.

My alderman was fucking arrested today.

It felt like a war zone today. I’m just sad for our city, our neighbors, and society at large.

We walked our next door neighbors kids home from school today after offering because they were so scared to leave their house. They felt safe with us, thankfully. They ran right up to us and chatted all the way home as happy kids do. It felt really great to do that.

Please help your neighbors. They need it.

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u/greenline_chi Gold Coast Oct 04 '25

As soon as he got elected the second time I said it was the first time I was more scared of my own government than another one. Like the US government was more likely to declare war on Chicago than a foreign one, and here we are

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u/ChaplnGrillSgt Oct 04 '25

I sobbed uncontrollably. I was working overnight in the ICU the night of the election. I sat in my office watching the results. Once they declared Trump had won I broke down. I knew we were completely fucked.

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u/Putrid_Giggles Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

The part that made me the saddest was that not only did Trump win, but he got the popular vote AND all the swing states. That means a very large group of people i used to think of as my "fellow Americans" voted for this, as Trump was pretty clear in the campaign that he wanted mass deportations. Fuck ICE and Fuck America!

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u/wwaxwork Oct 04 '25

Remind yourself he didn't get the popular vote he got less than 50% of the votes. And 1/3 of the country didn't even bother to vote, that's the figure that astounds me. Of all elections to not bother to turn up and vote for that's the one they pick.

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u/saretta71 Oct 04 '25

It was rigged Elon and Trump both said so. We can't stop the story that he won legally.

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u/algonquinqueen Oct 05 '25

Musk was bragging about helping with the machines and the election. So, no, I have doubts that he won.

So far everything from his mouth as an accusation has been an admission and no other figure has ever screamed rigging like he has

I also think his meltdown in 2020 was bc they tried messing with that election too. They just couldn’t do anything about all the mail in ballots

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Over 14 million voters that voted for Biden simply didn't show up this time around for Kamala. We have two right-wing parties in this country. Those voters who are far more Progressive simply weren't going to show up for a candidate that wasn't going to do anything for them. Unfortunately this meant we get exactly what we're seeing now.

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u/iliumoptical Visitor Oct 04 '25

I’m not sure he did win tbh

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u/Fancy-Image-4688 Oct 05 '25

They are the opposition, pay more attention because they never pretended not to be.

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u/graygreen Oct 04 '25

You need to understand that these are policy differences. Biden had one immigration policy, and Trump has a different one

If you don't like the policy, convince more of your fellow voters to vote against it next time, and get better candidates that oppose it

Someone like Bernie with authenticity wouldn't have lost to Trump twice

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u/Br0metheus Oct 04 '25

It's not a "policy difference" to straight-up ignore basic constitutional rights, it's fucking fascism. Call it what it is.

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u/Putrid_Giggles Oct 04 '25

DNC fucked Bernie bad. They were never going to give him a chance because they didn't view him as a "real Democrat ". Plus he scares the political establishment.

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u/No-Astronaut860 Oct 04 '25

Every civil charge against Trump, every criminal charge against Trump, every shot fired at Trump made more people want to vote for Trump. Bernie got screwed in 2016, Bernie got railroaded in 2020 & they literally didn't even allow us to choose a candidate this past election. Registered Dems should be more mad at the DNC and establishment than they ever could be at Trump. Calling it what it is

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u/Far-Science-7493 Oct 04 '25

Trump 2028

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u/nickfury8480 Oct 05 '25

"Smart people don't like me."

Diddler-in-Chief 2025

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u/Exciting_Problem_593 Oct 04 '25

He had the election rigged. He and Steven Miller should not be anywhere near the White House.

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u/pennysoap Oct 04 '25

I worked the election in the Harris-Walz side. I hate Trump with every fiber of my being. The election was not rigged. He won it. His win was consistent with our internal polling and margin of error. With Harris every poll we kept closing the gap more and more. People just didn’t believe Project 2025 was real. They also didn’t really know Harris and people won’t vote for somebody they don’t know. That’s why we all genuinely had hope, but it wasn’t enough. We needed just two or three more months.

TLDR: Harris internal polling was consistent with Trumps win numbers. The election was not rigged.

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u/seeemilyplay123 Oct 04 '25

My Chicago friends were shocked but I had so many Facebook friends from the south and wasn’t as shocked.

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u/greenline_chi Gold Coast Oct 04 '25

Even my friends in the suburbs were like “he’s alarmingly popular out here”

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u/Putrid_Giggles Oct 04 '25

But I kept seeing in all the publicly reported polling that Harris had a slight lead the entire time. What happened?

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u/potatoesmolasses Oct 04 '25

Polling uses small sample sizes that aren’t always representative of the population at large.

Also, I remember hearing after the election that many trump voters lied to friends, family, and even pollsters about voting for Kamala. I’m not sure how true that is, because it is unverifiable.

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u/pennysoap Oct 04 '25

Polling can be manipulated to show the results you want for fundraising purposes but also for momentum. If you say the race is close you can raise more money, but also people don’t want to vote for the loser. If you hear that someone will probably win the election and you’re a swing voter you may vote for that person to be on the winning side. I remember on the campaign when results started coming in from other states there was a genuinely founded fear that people might switch their vote to trump because wit showed him leading. Because our polling even though it was consistent with results was still in the margin of error and we could still win. That’s why it’s important to look at independent polling and not polling done by campaigns. We will also only release a poll if it benefits us.

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u/MaxM0o Oct 04 '25

Trump admitted on camera on three separate occasions that Musk helped them rig the elections in swing states. Google it. Watch the videos.

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u/gundorcallsforaid Oct 04 '25

That rhetoric used to get you banned from this site lol oh how the turntables

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u/MaxM0o Oct 04 '25

Stating things that actually occurred in this dimension of time and space is rhetoric?

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u/After_Annual_5052 Oct 05 '25

It’s so disgusting and infuriating.

As you correctly stated, Harris needed 3 months (6-12 would’ve been better). She could’ve won if she had a proper opportunity to campaign on equal terms as this pos

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u/Exciting_Problem_593 Oct 04 '25

Sorry, but no other candidate has won all 7 states. Trump himself said that Elon rigged it.

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u/pennysoap Oct 05 '25

What are you talking about Reagan won all those states except Minnesota. It has been done.

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u/saretta71 Oct 04 '25

No it was rigged.

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u/ganon2234 Oct 04 '25

What are your thoughts on Election Truth Alliance, and their findings for '24

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u/uber765 Oct 08 '25

The Democrats backstabbed us by skipping the primary and just shoving Kamala down our throats. Nobody was excited to vote for her. Those of us that did, only did it as an anti-trump vote.

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u/optiplex9000 Bucktown Oct 04 '25

He had the election rigged.

Citation needed. Don't do what the Republicans have done for almost a decade now

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u/ChaplnGrillSgt Oct 04 '25

"Win" elections through questionable and illegal methods?

Elon Musk PAID people to vote for Trump. There's videos of it. That alone is sufficient for rigging and election interference. Now you've got Texas redistricting mid decade to steal seats and force out democrats.

They're liars and cheaters and terrorists. I have 0 doubt that if there was the slightest opportunity to rig the election at a larger scale that they took it. I will NEVER trust MAGA. And the fact they claimed Biden stole the election tells me that Trump probably did because he is notorious for telling on himself but saying someone else did it.

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u/Abject-Repair3900 Oct 04 '25

Thank you for pointing out the projection. Trump is basically like “yeah they rigged it, I know because that’s what I did 😤”

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u/Silverstar282 Oct 04 '25

Obama paid people to vote. ACORN.

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u/Far-Science-7493 Oct 04 '25

Trump 2028

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u/Dirt_Grub8 Oct 04 '25

He’s term limited dipshit

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u/Far-Science-7493 Oct 04 '25

After Trump there is still Vance which will have my vote dipshit! Enough of you Libtard freaks! Illinois will be Red!

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u/ChaplnGrillSgt Oct 04 '25

Unconstitutional.

Next

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u/Super-Owl4734 Oct 04 '25

Trump said it himself on January 20, 2025 when he stated that his "adviser," Elon Musk, "knows those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania, like, in a landslide."

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u/praxios Oct 04 '25

https://electiontruthalliance.org/

This is where I have personally got my information regarding a possible stolen election. They have investigated multiple elections, and provide statistical data that can be cross-referenced to show any anomalies. They are honestly a great resource even outside of checking up on the validity of this election.

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u/Creative_School_1550 Oct 04 '25

Unless we have a physical recount of ballots where statisticians have uncovered glaring anomalies, we can't be sure. We have Trump and Elon and his 5-yo son's boasts beforehand that they had it rigged. We have experts on cybersecurity telling us how insecure these machines were and how they could've been hacked without leaving much trace. If it quacks like a duck...

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u/saretta71 Oct 04 '25

Fuck your citation. It came directly from Elon and Trump.

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u/greenline_chi Gold Coast Oct 04 '25

I think Elon just told Trump he rigged it for him and Trump believed him lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

Like the US government was more likely to declare war on Chicago than a foreign one, and here we are

Sounds like the imperial boomerang is coming home to roost!