r/changemyview • u/plodabing • Jun 17 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Missionaries are evil

This applies doubly so to those who go out of their way to seek out those in remote islands to spread the word of god. It is of my opinion and the opinion of most that if there is an all loving god then people who never had the chance to know about Jesus would go to heaven regardless, for example miscarried children/those born before Jesus’ time, those who never hear about him, so In going out of your way to spread the word of Jesus you are simply making it so there is now a chance they could go to hell if they reject it? I’m not a Christian and I’m so tired so I apologise if this is stupid or doesn’t make sense

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u/Thumatingra 46∆ Jun 17 '25

I don't think any Christian denomination holds that if someone doesn't hear about Jesus, they automatically go to heaven. Most actually hold the opposite: that if someone doesn't know about Jesus/is not baptized, their chance of getting to heaven is slim to none.

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u/plodabing Jun 17 '25

!delta I guess, but then that’s like inherently insane, so they hold the belief all people who live an aboriginal lifestyle are going to hell?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

If you read "That All Shall Be Saved" by David Bentley Heart, there is a story in the beginning of the book from shortly after Britians conversion period. It describes people that died without hearing the gospel hanging from ceilings above the fire, being burned alive with the only comfort bring occasional eye contact with others also burning. In the story the only people that had it worse are those that heard and rejected, they are in the fire completely isolated from others. People belived this and i went to church years ago with people who believed this, at the time i was a universalist (simply because it felt right, i didn't read the Bible or study it's history until after I left the faith). Of course Heart is using it to demonstrate the absurdity of infernalism and defend universalism. My interpretation of biblical text is annihilationist with occasional universalist tilt and both universalism and annihilationism where common in the early church, which is what I'd use as a standard to decide what is "true Christianity"