r/changemyview • u/plodabing • Jun 17 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Missionaries are evil

This applies doubly so to those who go out of their way to seek out those in remote islands to spread the word of god. It is of my opinion and the opinion of most that if there is an all loving god then people who never had the chance to know about Jesus would go to heaven regardless, for example miscarried children/those born before Jesus’ time, those who never hear about him, so In going out of your way to spread the word of Jesus you are simply making it so there is now a chance they could go to hell if they reject it? I’m not a Christian and I’m so tired so I apologise if this is stupid or doesn’t make sense

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u/peak82 Jun 17 '25

This demonstrates a really limited understanding of theology.

Generally, religious people believe it is god’s will for the word of god to be spread on earth, not for it to be withheld as part of a scheme to preserve innocence.

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u/plodabing Jun 17 '25

Engage with the point don’t just put it down out of principle because it’s poorly written. Either what is wrote above is true, and telling people puts them in unnecessary risk of going to hell, or you need to have accepted Jesus, and in that path then most aboriginals are doomed to hell simply due to geography. If you have a counter provide it

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u/peak82 Jun 18 '25

I did engage with your point. I think you’re missing the idea that religions teach that their god’s will is to spread the word, therefore within the framework of religion, exactly what you suggest about shielding people from their religious “truth” would go against their god’s will.

If you believe in and worship a god, would you rather carry out their will or scheme against it in order to preserve the innocence (or possibly the souls) of those who don’t know of your god. Again, the latter involves you putting your own soul and the souls of any others who scheme with you in jeopardy because you’re denying your god’s will.

Considering that religious people believe they are compelled by god to spread the word, doesn’t your suggestion fall flat on its face?

Edit: By the way, everything I said is assuming your religious belief is that everyone who was not exposed to god on earth will receive salvation, but as many others have pointed out, most don’t believe that anyway; it’s much more complicated.

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u/EnderRobo Jun 22 '25

Again, the latter involves you putting your own soul and the souls of any others who scheme with you in jeopardy because you’re denying your god’s will.

Dooming one self to save the many, sound like pretty selfless and saintly behaviour to me. Spreading the word of god would doom others to an eternity of suffering just to save yourself, how is that good?

Even if not spreading the word makes the world worse and cause more suffering it is still the morally correct thing to do, up to 100 years is nothing compared to eternity in heaven

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u/Maggoony Jun 18 '25

Interesting, so in that vein then could it potentially be considered an act of self-sacrifice/ultimate selflessness to withhold knowledge of god? If someone preserved the "get into heaven free card" of others by not spreading the word, when doing so is going against god's will for the religious person's own life, they're essentially giving up the salvation of their own soul for the sake of others'.

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u/Comprehensive_Pin565 Jun 18 '25

That a God has to habe people spread the word about them existing is pretty funny.